Polygamy & Apostolics

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

Thank you for you responses, on the last point I meant to ask you what is your ideal role for women in the church? ie: what would you like to see different in either the church or society? I've been through a divorce also, but I chalk it up to severe immaturity on both my ex and my part. I don't think pouting about abusive men is going to develop positive relationships in the future. Don't we all have maturing to do? I don't think the upc is a resevoir of wisdom. How can it be with such petty standards as restrictions against tv evangelism? The upc is uneducated in the ways of the world and men are uneducated in the ways of women.

My divorce wasn't about immaturity. but pouting is not my style at all. I am much more pro-active than that. I agree with the UPCI statement and the one about men not knowing women

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

My divorce wasn't about immaturity. but pouting is not my style at all. I am much more pro-active than that. I agree with the UPCI statement and the one about men not knowing women

I wish you the best and hope you can post a little more about your feelings toward men. Don't let the ucons discourage you, love and moderation will triumph in the end.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Brett Prince

In conclusion, how about blistering other dolts through harmful inferences so intentionally shameful.

The wise will read and understand the truth.

I see the truth in Rhoni's words ... BP the truth hurts.

[Brett Prince]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I see the truth in Rhoni's words ... BP the truth hurts.

Yep...here they come.

[Amos]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I see the truth in Rhoni's words ... BP the truth hurts.

You are quick to herald as "truth" anything that demonizes the spiritual mother that birthed you.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Amos

You are quick to herald as "truth" anything that demonizes the spiritual mother that birthed you.

CS ... a movement did not birth me ... nor did it you.

And nor has Rhoni demonized anyone.

Truth has more the one facet ... something you fail to understand.

[jwharv]

I haven't read this entire thread. When I saw the title though it made me think of a guy who use to have a website that said he was "100% Apostolic" he promoted Acts 2:38 on his page and had teachings on holiness. He also however had several pages teaching on how it was time to "bring polygamy back to the church where it belonged". I tried to find his page to post but I couldn't maybe he finally came to his senses............

Originally Posted by Rhoni

So, how about taking my hand and letting me help instead of cutting me down and making false accusations about me. The only thing I am to be accused of is wanting so much to help that I hurt inside. I do all I can do whenever the opportunity presents itself. I am a marriage and family therapist because I believe in the institution of marriage and the necessity of family God's way to make a difference in our world.

I hurt every day I live because of failing at providing a stable marriage for my children and an example of Biblical hierarchy. Because of my failure [I had no example] I hope to teach/counsel/and example the few years I have left on this earth of doing it right. If only through my example of how not to do it.

Sincerely, Rhoni

Dear sister Rhoni,

I've seen and heard your hurts. Remember this, no one was hurt anymore than the one who was rejected by those of whom he loved the most, then suffered so shamefully before the whole nation as a common criminal. You will never suffer any more than did your Lord, who made no mistakes of his own, but bore our sorrows in our stead who are full of many mistakes.

I applaude your pure intentions to be the example and to teach many others in the ways of doing it right. I know you personally, and I know that this is your true desire. So, navigate through the landmines dear and reach for the good in service as you are determined to do, without being discouraged or even remembering the days of yore when hurts abounded on every side. You have a higher calling.

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

Thank you for you responses, on the last point I meant to ask you what is your ideal role for women in the church? ie: what would you like to see different in either the church or society? I've been through a divorce also, but I chalk it up to severe immaturity on both my ex and my part. I don't think pouting about abusive men is going to develop positive relationships in the future. Don't we all have maturing to do? I don't think the upc is a resevoir of wisdom. How can it be with such petty standards as restrictions against tv evangelism? The upc is uneducated in the ways of the world and men are uneducated in the ways of women.

Good post...especially the bold words.

I am 67 years old. I have just about decided that I will never mature. Everytime that I think that I have arrived, it does not take me long to realize just how far I am from truly being mature. I dispair that I shall EVER MATURE. I have such a long way to go and it seems to grow further away.

[Trouvere]

JHarv that may have been the guy.Didn't he have a page advertising for a second wife?