Believing in a Lie - Page 16

Evang.Benincasa · #**151** 03-01-2013, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

All of them? You doing good to keep them all.

The misselette is the last token of my childhood. Strange it would be that since I rejected RCCisms.

I have the one from my first communion, I have a pretty huge library, I collect old, rare, and new religious books. Everyone in my family is ardent reader, and I taught my daughters to do their research, and know why they are in the Apostolic Faith. In that way they won't grow up to be a pencil neck like PreacherME.

Evang.Benincasa · #**152** 03-01-2013, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I don't think he knows HOW to put his trust in anything other than a charismatic man acting in the role as "pastor". This is the case for far too many in ANY religion.

Scooby Rooby Rooo!

Barb · #**153** 03-02-2013, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by PreacherME

Let me ask you a question: Are you versed enough to explain to me why women should not wear pants? Are they going to hell? Are you versed enough to tell me why I should not have a tv? Is the ownership of owning a television set gonna send someone to hell? Can you explain why some women get to wear dresses to thier knees is some UPC churches, but in other UPC churches they are going to hell? Are you versed enough to answer these questions? Can you tell me why it is okay for some in the UPC can wear wedding bands and others cannot? are you versed enough to tell me that?

PM, these are not the questions you posed at the outset...

YOU said you were not versed in the matters of holiness. After lo those many years of 'ministry', and you still couldn't give an answer...something is amiss.

I'm sorry, but my gift of suspicion leads me to still think you are a poser... but that is your business and JMHO. Carry on...

Evang.Benincasa · #**154** 03-02-2013, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Barb

PM, these are not the questions you posed at the outset...

YOU said you were not versed in the matters of holiness. After lo those many years of 'ministry', and you still couldn't give an answer...something is amiss.

I'm sorry, but my gift of suspicion leads me to still think you are a poser... but that is your business and JMHO. Carry on...

Your Kung Fu...Is Very Good!

houston · #**155** 03-02-2013, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

The only thing I sound like is an Italian from the South Bronx.

You're Italian now?

Barb · #**156** 03-02-2013, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Your Kung Fu...Is Very Good!

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navygoat1998 · #**157** 03-02-2013, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I have the one from my first communion, I have a pretty huge library, I collect old, rare, and new religious books. Everyone in my family is ardent reader, and I taught my daughters to do their research, and know why they are in the Apostolic Faith. In that way they won't grow up to be a pencil neck like PreacherME.

Brother I agree if you are going to believe in something, then know why you believe, and not because it was Mommy's and Daddy's theology.

Evang.Benincasa · #**158** 03-02-2013, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by navygoat1998

Brother I agree if you are going to believe in something, then know why you believe, and not because it was Mommy's and Daddy's theology. I too have studied to know why I believe the way I do.

I as an Italian in ancestry, American, by birth, raised by an Atheist father, and a Roman Catholic mother, became an Apostolic Pentecostal because of study and research encouraged by my atheist father, who once said to me that if I was going to believe the scriptures I better make sure I looked into it far further than those who claimed to be the defenders of the faith.

I dedicated my life to not only teach my children to evaluate the evidence critically, but be able to understand where the opposition is coming from, and why they choose the paths they have chosen.

We have family friends who are part off different religions, and religions which are not Christian, they too say they have studied to know why they believe the way they believe.

Not everyone is like our (as Barb aptly stated "poser") PreacherME, they're Hindus who have studied out the Mahabharata in the original Sanskrit, Modern Jews who have studied out the Talmud and Torah in the original Hebrew, and Aramaic, LDS, and Jehovah Witnesses who have gone painstakingly through their own teachings and found what they believe to be as correct as what you and I claim to be as correct.

A person who is SINCERE in a religion would have to be dog barking mad to say they never really studied it out after being in it for over 40 years.

Yet, people have all sorts of reasons for being in their cults, cultures, and religions, even those who we think are blatantly wrong are usually sincere about their wrongness.

I don't doubt your sincerity in whatever you claim to be your religious truth, but whether its you or I, saying that we study doesn't mean anything in the grander scheme of things.

One of us is wrong, and the WRONG is what will put one of us in a burning lake of fire.

In Deuteronomy 4:2, Deuteronomy 12:22, Proverbs 30:6, Ecclesiastes 3:14, Galatians 1:8, and Revelations 22:18-19 these verses admonish the reader of the Bible to not add or take away from what has been written or taught, therefore there can only be one truth.

While we may want this truth to allow all who claim to have a burning in the bosom, and believe in Jesus Christ all to be saved, the Bible gives a different story.

While we all roll around the floor having a hair pulling contest on Calvinism, Arianism, or Molinism, we can't deny that there is ONLY ONE TRUTH. While I go round and round with Muslims, Hindus, Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons, Presbyterians, Eastern and Western Catholics, on doctrines, we all agree on one thing. We agree that there is only ONE TRUTH. You and I just better be sure we are in that one truth, others get around it by saying that God in His mercy will circumvent His word and allow everyone to gain access to eternal life. While they may gain some a sigh of relief that isn't what is obviously found within the pages of the Bible.

Evang.Benincasa · #**159** 03-02-2013, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by houston

You're Italian now?

navygoat1998 · #**160** 03-02-2013, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I as an Italian in ancestry, American, by birth, raised by an Atheist father, and a Roman Catholic mother, became an Apostolic Pentecostal because of study and research encouraged by my atheist father, who once said to me that if I was going to believe the scriptures I better make sure I looked into it far further than those who claimed to be the defenders of the faith.

I dedicated my life to not only teach my children to evaluate the evidence critically, but be able to understand where the opposition is coming from, and why they choose the paths they have chosen.

We have family friends who are part off different religions, and religions which are not Christian, they too say they have studied to know why they believe the way they believe.

Not everyone is like our (as Barb aptly stated "poser") PreacherME, they're Hindus who have studied out the Mahabharata in the original Sanskrit, Modern Jews who have studied out the Talmud and Torah in the original Hebrew, and Aramaic, LDS, and Jehovah Witnesses who have gone painstakingly through their own teachings and found what they believe to be as correct as what you and I claim to be as correct.

A person who is SINCERE in a religion would have to be dog barking mad to say they never really studied it out after being in it for over 40 years.

Yet, people have all sorts of reasons for being in their cults, cultures, and religions, even those who we think are blatantly wrong are usually sincere about their wrongness.

I don't doubt your sincerity in whatever you claim to be your religious truth, but whether its you or I, saying that we study doesn't mean anything in the grander scheme of things.

One of us is wrong, and the WRONG is what will put one of us in a burning lake of fire.

In Deuteronomy 4:2, Deuteronomy 12:22, Proverbs 30:6, Ecclesiastes 3:14, Galatians 1:8, and Revelations 22:18-19 these verses admonish the reader of the Bible to not add or take away from what has been written or taught, therefore there can only be one truth.

While we may want this truth to allow all who claim to have a burning in the bosom, and believe in Jesus Christ all to be saved, the Bible gives a different story.

While we all roll around the floor having a hair pulling contest on Calvinism, Arianism, or Molinism, we can't deny that there is ONLY ONE TRUTH. While I go round and round with Muslims, Hindus, Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons, Presbyterians, Eastern and Western Catholics, on doctrines, we all agree on one thing. We agree that there is only ONE TRUTH. You and I just better be sure we are in that one truth, others get around it by saying that God in His mercy will circumvent His word and allow everyone to gain access to eternal life. While they may gain some a sigh of relief that isn't what is obviously found within the pages of the Bible.

While you and I disagree on somethings, we do agree where it is most important and that is Christ and Him crucified.

I am telling you when I really started to see who Christ when I took off my doctrinal glasses and read the Word like a babe.

It is Christ Who taught me that I am justified by faith and it was Paul who confirmed it.