All Trinitarians are Lost!!!!!!!!!!! - Page 16

Farfel · #**151** 12-18-2012, 10:55 PM

In that case, what do you think of this article? http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ead.php?t=9335

Steve Epley · #**152** 12-18-2012, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Farfel

In that case, what do you think of this article? http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ead.php?t=9335

I do NOT believe this statement or any similiar statements from anyone. They were wrong.

Light · #**153** 12-19-2012, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

When Elder Urshan wrote that book he was newly converted to the Oneness doctrine and I think he poorly worded his position. His Son was renowned Oneness preacher. I doubt he would have worded it that way later on in his ministry?

A Urshan believed the same in the early sixties as he did when he was converted.

In the early sixties A Urshan held us a revival. One night after alter call he told a man seeking the HG that if he really needed the HG to go to heaven, God would give it to him on the way up. This is not hearsay I was standing next to Urshan listening to the conversation. The revival closed that night and the next morning I took him to the bus station.

Originalist · #**154** 12-19-2012, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Sorry I really do have more to do that sit here all day I do try to Pastor the church the Lord has placed me over.

But you've had time, and seem to STILL have time to answer everyone else BUT me. That is very telling.

Timmy · #**155** 12-19-2012, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Would you get on the platform and say that?

Is that an invitation?

Originalist · #**156** 12-19-2012, 08:44 AM

Pastor Epley, you created this thread, and boldly entitled it, "All Trinitarians Are Lost !!!", emphasizing this point with many exclamation marks.

I have pointed out teachings by the Apostle Paul that contradicts your stance.

The great Apostle Paul makes it clear that when God fills someone with the Holy Ghost after they have believed the gospel of redemption through Christ's blood (water baptism is obviously a part of "believing" the gospel), that He is marking that person as his own. Paul is clearly saying that the baptism in the PROMISED Holy Spirit is a seal or sign that this person has been accepted by God, justified by faith.

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13 And when you believed in Christ, he identified you as his own by giving you the Holy Spirit, whom he promised long ago.

14 The Spirit is God’s guarantee that he will give us the inheritance he promised and that he has purchased us to be his own people. (Eph 1:13-14)

And of course Paul is referring to the events of Acts chapter 19 when the first Ephesians were converted.

Brother Epley, in front of all these witnesses on this board who are reading this thread I ask you, do you agree with the Apostle Paul or not? Are those who have received the Holy Ghost God's people or not, even if they attend a church with what we'd consider to have less than perfect doctrine? Better yet, do you agree with God?

mizpeh · #**157** 12-19-2012, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Originalist

But you've had time, and seem to STILL have time to answer everyone else BUT me. That is very telling.

He had time to start an inflammatory thread but not to defend his premise when questioned.

crakjak · #**158** 12-19-2012, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Light

A Urshan believed the same in the early sixties as he did when he was converted.

In the early sixties A Urshan held us a revival. One night after alter call he told a man seeking the HG that if he really needed the HG to go to heaven, God would give it to him on the way up. This is not hearsay I was standing next to Urshan listening to the conversation. The revival closed that night and the next morning I took him to the bus station.

Classic!!! UPC exclusivism!!! Andrew Urshan a great man with a heart after God's own!!

Steve Epley · #**159** 12-19-2012, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Originalist

But you've had time, and seem to STILL have time to answer everyone else BUT me. That is very telling.

I missed your question evidently ask and I will answer.

Steve Epley · #**160** 12-19-2012, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Light

A Urshan believed the same in the early sixties as he did when he was converted.

In the early sixties A Urshan held us a revival. One night after alter call he told a man seeking the HG that if he really needed the HG to go to heaven, God would give it to him on the way up. This is not hearsay I was standing next to Urshan listening to the conversation. The revival closed that night and the next morning I took him to the bus station.

Then Urshan was wrong.