Selling Out to Cash In.... Ex-Apostolics...

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

More puppeteering on the part of my UC PAJC brethren

Too many attached strings I guess....I think that it is funny with these people. If someone for years follows exactly what they do then they are considered brethren. However, once they stick up for what they really believe then they are out cast as people who believe heresy.

[Charlie Brown]

Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

I disagree with you, unless of course they never believed Apostolic doctrine to begin with.

If I believe that it takes Jesus name Baptism, and the infilling of the holy ghost to make it, and then I go on TBN and lead sinners in a "sinners prayer", and then tell them they are saved, do I really believe what I used to??

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

You have seen them pray the Roman Road and then say now you are saved? give me break.

My bad. I have not heard all of them "ON TBN" itself. But yes, I have heard all three of them do it.

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Nope.

Here's what disturbs me about this repetitive conversation with Daniel and others who have left what they once proclaimed as truth.

They deny the power of the name in baptism. They deny the fact that God's Spirit comes with signs following. They deny everything aside from repentance is essential to salvation.

And here is the kicker. They then go on to say that we are part of the same movement.

Hogwash.

For once, why not call it what it is. They have returned to a pre-twentieth century understanding of Oneness Pentecostalism. They have rejected the basic tenants of the Apostolic faith. They have embraced the greater whoredom of Christendom in the name of ecumenicalism and tolerance.

"We're all the Same" seems to be Paul Crouch's TBN Cry... I say if your a part of that Group your belief means little because it's not what's promoted.. or preached..

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

Our fingering will mean nothing.

"Have we not said Lord, Lord, and in that day I will say I never knew you..."

Everyone gets to go to Heaven- not Everyone gets to stay there.

Funny. Pointing will do no good there so when everyone tries to point at the others for extra biblical doctrine then what...

[Charlie Brown]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

More puppeteering on the part of my UC PAJC brethren

If you knew who I really was you would not doubt me.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Too many attached strings I guess....I think that it is funny with these people. If someone for years follows exactly what they do then they are considered brethren. However, once they stick up for what they really believe then they are out cast as people who believe heresy.

Not true. You left us when you left the faith.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Nope.

Here's what disturbs me about this repetitive conversation with Daniel and others who have left what they once proclaimed as truth.

They deny the power of the name in baptism. They deny the fact that God's Spirit comes with signs following. They deny everything aside from repentance is essential to salvation.

And here is the kicker. They then go on to say that we are part of the same movement.

Hogwash.

For once, why not call it what it is. They have returned to a pre-twentieth century understanding of Oneness Pentecostalism. They have rejected the basic tenants of the Apostolic faith. They have embraced the greater whoredom of Christendom in the name of ecumenicalism and tolerance.

You're understanding of truth ... is base on a portion of the Oneness movement ... and it's only 80-90 years old .... it's not what the primitive church believed .....

Once again you put words in people's mouths ... and stand behind your religious garbs satisfied in your idol of perceived truth.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Nope.

Here's what disturbs me about this repetitive conversation with Daniel and others who have left what they once proclaimed as truth.

They deny the power of the name in baptism. They deny the fact that God's Spirit comes with signs following. They deny everything aside from repentance is essential to salvation.
And here is the kicker. They then go on to say that we are part of the same movement.

Hogwash.

For once, why not call it what it is? They have returned to a pre-twentieth century understanding of Oneness Pentecostalism, and true Apostolic power is absent from that understanding. They have rejected the basic tenants of the Apostolic faith. They have embraced the greater whoredom of Christendom in the name of ecumenicalism and tolerance.

When have we said that?? Read too much into things lately?

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Not true. You left us when you left the faith.

I never left the "faith." I left the legalistic mind at the altar one night and now walk in this life with out the legalistics. I am in the faith. The faith encompasses everyone that believes. I do believe!

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

You're understanding of truth ... is base on a portion of the Oneness movement ... and it's only 80-90 years old .... it's not what the primitive church believed .....

Once again you put words in people's mouths ... and stand behind your religious garbs satisfied in your idol of perceived truth.

I do no such thing. This is what Peter preached at Pentecost, and you can't handle it, and can't get around it. There is no erasing it, or watering it down. It is what it is.

1. Repent and
2. Be baptized in Jesus name for the remission of sins,
3. And ye shall receive.

It is not my truth - though I fully embrace it. It is God's holy Word.