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Old 06-09-2012, 09:52 AM
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PO - maybe, just maybe, Rand knows more is about the importance of this election and sees that the re-election of BHO will make it immensely difficult to get America back on track.
So maybe, Rand is more of an American patriot than those who oppose Romney because he is not conservative enough.
DING, DING, DING!!!! We have a winner folks! This post brings the whole discussion down to the essential point.

Four more years of Obama's economic policies and judicial appointments will make changing course just about impossible as his changes will be institutionalized for the most part.

Romney might not be the huge swing in direction the die hard right wing wants but he is at the very least an incremental turn in that direction.
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Old 06-09-2012, 11:43 AM
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Old 06-09-2012, 12:25 PM
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Re: The Real Delegate Count - it's not over

This article was true one year ago and it is true today. So, call me unpatriotic all you want. I don't really care.
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Old 06-09-2012, 07:40 PM
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Political activism and dissent has always been a part of the American culture. Once people are cowed down with political accusations of being unpatriotic if you do not vote for so and so...that is a good sign that we are descending into a society ripe for dictatorship and/or tyranny.
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Old 06-09-2012, 09:02 PM
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Political activism and dissent has always been a part of the American culture. Once people are cowed down with political accusations of being unpatriotic if you do not vote for so and so...that is a good sign that we are descending into a society ripe for dictatorship and/or tyranny.
AYR - not true. Go back and look at the founders and the early days of the republic for some really vile accusations.
Politics today is quite tame compared to then.
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Old 06-09-2012, 11:16 PM
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AYR - not true. Go back and look at the founders and the early days of the republic for some really vile accusations.
Politics today is quite tame compared to then.
And, do you know why politics were so vile and volatile back in those days? There is a great history that we have not been taught on this subject.

aegsm, it is true if you stop and think about what I posted.

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Political activism and dissent has always been a part of the American culture. Once people are cowed down with political accusations of being unpatriotic if you do not vote for so and so...that is a good sign that we are descending into a society ripe for dictatorship and/or tyranny.

But when one group of people try to cow down another group of people by labeling them "unpatriotic" that group of people interferes with freedom of the election votes. Does anybody remember the accusations of vote tampering in Florida during the 2000 elections? How about the accusations of voter intimidation during the 2008 elections? It brought confusion instead of orderly elections.

We have little to no knowledge of why our politics are mildly volatile now, as compared to why it was even more vile 200 years ago because our history books have been rewritten and basically left out large portions as to the real history of our struggle to be free from European powers.

I just watched a documentary called Secrets of Oz by Bill Still. He gives an in-depth history of our monetary system complete with quotes that our political leaders in the 1700s and 1800s have fought to be free from.

http://still2012.com/videos/#

Scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on the little television to the left and watch his documentary.

Here is a short version from:

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...ildbankers.php

Excerpt from the article: THE BANKERS MANIFESTO

Congressman Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr. revealed the Bankers Manifesto of 1892 to the U.S. Congress somewhere between 1907 and 1917. The source was an article written by Louis Even and published in United States Bankers Magazine 1892.

We (the bankers) must proceed with caution and guard every move made, for the lower order of people are already showing signs of restless commotion. Prudence will therefore show a policy of apparently yielding to the popular will until our plans are so far consummated that we can declare our designs without fear of any organized resistance.

Organizations in the United States should be carefully watched by our trusted men, and we must take immediate steps to control these organizations in our interest or disrupt them.

At the coming Omaha convention to be held July 4, 1892, our men must attend and direct its movement or else there will be set on foot such antagonism to our designs as may require force to overcome.

This at the present time would be premature. We are not yet ready for such a crisis. Capital must protect itself in every possible manner through combination (conspiracy) and legislation.

The courts must be called to our aid, debts must be collected, bonds and mortgages foreclosed as rapidly as possible.

When, through the process of law, the common people have lost their homes, they will be more tractable and easily governed through the influence of the strong arm of the government applied to a central power of imperial wealth under the control of the leading financiers.

People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders. History repeats itself in regular cycles. This truth is well known among our principal men who are engaged in forming an imperialism of the world. While they are doing this, the people must be kept in a state of political antagonism.

The question of tariff reform must be urged through the organization known as the Democratic Party, and the question of protection with the reciprocity must be forced to view through the Republican Party.

By thus dividing voters, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us, except as teachers to the common herd. Thus, by discrete actions, we can secure all that has been so generously planned and successfully accomplished.

Has anybody noticed that the same societal issues come up every 4 years and we get all sorts of promises and everything stays the same until the next election cycle. And it starts over again.

Every 4 years we are told to vote for the lesser of two evils. Most every christian acknowledges that the candidates end up both evil, not wanting to lead this country in the Will of God, yet, we have people saying that we should vote for the lesser of those two evil to get the more evil one out? Then the lesser evil becomes the greater evil and has 4 years to get that way.

Joan Veon has basically stated the same things in her articles on her website,

http://www.womensgroup.org/

She is neither a conspiracy nut, nor a conspiracy theorist as she has reported what she read in actual official documents as well as heard in International Monetary Meetings and United Nations Conferences. She bravely did what many of us cannot or will not do, even while she suffered from breast cancer and eventually succumbed to the illness.

Many people will not read or research this, but it will open their eyes as to the real issue why America is failing if they do. When will they will see that Congress, Obama or Romney will not change one stinkin thing that is going on for the benefit of the American people. Obama promised us Hope and Change. We got hopeless change. He bailed out Wall St and the bankers despite the people saying NO. Bush did it too before he left office with the TARP program.

As Bill Still spoke in his documentary, we got leaders who are borrowing (stimulus) money from the bankers and giving it back to the bankers as a bailout. LOL. How many of us will do that when we borrow? Will you borrow several thousand dollars , give it back to the banks, and still pay on the loan plus interest and have absolutely nothing to show for it?

If it wasn't so sad, I'd laugh my rear end off! I know the bankers are.
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Old 06-10-2012, 02:00 AM
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I don't think unpatriotic holds the sting that it used to.
Racist does, though.
As in, if you don't vote for candidate X, you must be racist.
We saw that in the last election and in this one.
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It's not unpatriotic to not vote for Romney because he's not the conservative we want him to be, thus aiding and abetting Obama....it's idiotic
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It's not unpatriotic to not vote for Romney because he's not the conservative we want him to be, thus aiding and abetting Obama....it's idiotic
I agree 100%
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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I have a mental picture of PO sitting cross legged in her living room floor tears streaming down her face absent mindedly fiddling with her official Ron Paul tin foil hat watching Mitt Romney nominated on the first ballot at the Republican convention in the midst of a unifying spirit and rallying call to unthrone Obama! LOL!!!

(please note my excellent run on sentence above!)
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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