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09-28-2011, 04:15 PM
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This is still that!
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Re: Perplexed!
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Originally Posted by Mr. Steinway
That is my quandary. Do I stay and fight because of my investment in time, finances and emotion that I have put in the church over the years, or do I leave quietly and not make any waves? I don't want to be labeled as a troublemaker!
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Pray about it and get a copy of the Pastor's sermon that he preaches while you are gone, talking about the direction of the church. It's tough when there are emotional ties to people and you don't know the long term consequences of your actions.
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09-28-2011, 04:19 PM
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Re: Perplexed!
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Originally Posted by Mr. Steinway
That is my quandary. Do I stay and fight because of my investment in time, finances and emotion that I have put in the church over the years, or do I leave quietly and not make any waves? I don't want to be labeled as a troublemaker!
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We've been in church situations where we have had to choose to stay and fight (and I really mean to just stand) or leave. We left that decision to God and His direction, through prayer and fasting. If you have to stay and make a stand, at God's direction, at least you know that God will bring deliverance, eventually. I don't see ever making the decision on our own. It wouldn't make sense in the New Testament church, IMO, - being led of the Spirit and all.
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09-28-2011, 04:45 PM
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Re: Perplexed!
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Originally Posted by Sarah
Hmmm...I wonder if this change had anything to do with the music directors (the Gardners) leaving CC.
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Not at all! That was a whole 'nuther issue! 
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09-28-2011, 04:50 PM
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Re: Perplexed!
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Originally Posted by Amanah
Pray about it and get a copy of the Pastor's sermon that he preaches while you are gone, talking about the direction of the church. It's tough when there are emotional ties to people and you don't know the long term consequences of your actions.
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You're right! It's hard to walk away and change from weekly routines of worship with family and friends. There's a lot of emotion involved here.
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09-28-2011, 06:36 PM
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Re: Perplexed!
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Amen the lady is preaching and is preaching the truth. Hear ye her!  |
I thought you were against that? 
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09-28-2011, 07:04 PM
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Re: Perplexed!
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Originally Posted by pelathais
Okay... How about this... and NO OFFENSE to anyone, please!
... but CC1 attends the "church in question" here and after his comments I have to ask:
Did this really happen?
CC1? Pianoman? Anyone?
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You gotta catch up with the times Pelanthesaurus! I have not attended CC for about two years now. Going to a local church because of health issues with my wife making the trip to CC too hard. That is why I told Steinway to call me - I am out of the loop on CC and what he posted was news to me and I wanted details!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
Last edited by CC1; 09-28-2011 at 07:15 PM.
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09-28-2011, 07:11 PM
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Re: Perplexed!
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Originally Posted by CC1
You gotta catch up with the times Pelanthesaurus! I have not attended CC for about two years now. Going to a local church because of health issues with my wife making the trip to CC too hard. That is why I told CC to call me - I am out of the loop on CC and what he posted was news to me and I wanted details!
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Nevermind the church stuff... do you still have the inground pool when I come for a visit??
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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09-28-2011, 07:16 PM
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Re: Perplexed!
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
Nevermind the church stuff... do you still have the inground pool when I come for a visit??
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Hey, I am a redneck. it is a 33' above ground pool.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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09-28-2011, 07:30 PM
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Re: Perplexed!
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Originally Posted by CC1
Hey, I am a redneck. it is a 33' above ground pool.
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LOL! You'll think redneck when I bring my canoe!
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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09-28-2011, 09:12 PM
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Re: Perplexed!
Have you talked to Bro. Hardwick about the situation? I would tell him an exodus is getting ready to take place. Prominent long standing members are on their way out.
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