Television Issue!

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

And if they are Online like you, they are hypocrites like you. You can't stand against TV and be Online. You are the reason there is so much confusion in Faith today.

Either get off the Internet and banish the Video Games, or your testimony is a fake. Or, you can be real and stop your ridiculous agenda against Television.

I still don’t want a TV, but I don’t care if people do. If a person wants a Television, that’s their business, not mine.

Nice.
Do not pass go, go straight to the personal attack and name calling.
Let's talk about hypocrisy.
Are you the guy that does not believe the Bible is the inspired word of God?

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by unitedpraise10

Someone once explained it to me as personal conviction! Also, if a pastor is ok with it, his word trumps the manual.

So, a pastor's word trumps the manual? My understanding is that the pastor agrees with the manual, otherwise he wouldn't hold a license....

[unitedpraise10]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

So, a pastor's word trumps the manual? My understanding is that the pastor agrees with the manual, otherwise he wouldn't hold a license....

You are right, but he agrees on behalf of himself...not his congregation! In todays day and time a pastor isn't going to say "No TV, No Christmas Tree, No amusement parks, No sports venues, etc", unless of course they are WPF, in fear of loosing his entire congregation. Lets face it, people are just not going to be told what they can and can't do anymore. We need to remember that we live in the 21st century folks. It's not 1950 anymore, nor is it 1980 or 1996. It's 2011. This is something we cannot fix or reverse. Television is in the church, and we just need to adapt. Believe it or not, television can be used to edify the body and to glorify God!

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Nice.
Do not pass go, go straight to the personal attack and name calling.
Let's talk about hypocrisy.
Are you the guy that does not believe the Bible is the inspired word of God?

Typical politician. The old "Change the Subject" trick! The facts always scare folks like you. Stop deviating from the topic of this Thread. Bottom line is, you are a hypocrite if you are on the Internet and cry wolf against TV.

Again, and I'll say AGAIN, I sent you a PM on the subject of Scripture, but all on AFF, I got NO RESPONSE! A gave you a thorough answer and admitted my struggles with our current Bible, but you just ignore everything I said.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by unitedpraise10

You are right, but he agrees on behalf of himself...not his congregation! In todays day and time a pastor isn't going to say "No TV, No Christmas Tree, No amusement parks, No sports venues, etc", unless of course they are WPF, in fear of loosing his entire congregation. Lets face it, people are just not going to be told what they can and can't do anymore. We need to remember that we live in the 21st century folks. It's not 1950 anymore, nor is it 1980 or 1996. It's 2011. This is something we cannot fix or reverse. Television is in the church, and we just need to adapt. Believe it or not, television can be used to edify the body and to glorify God!

I view that as agreeing with most of the statement, especially, the plan of salvation. I don't think you have to agree with all of it to sign it. It's the same as a Congressman putting his vote on a bill, IMO.. He signs it for the greater good of the bill. The plan of salvation trumps the "tv" or "uncut hair" issue for me.

I'm not likely to attend a church that preaches an AOG message - "Holy Ghost is not necessary, but it's nice for empowerment." Romans 8:9 tells me that is not true.

[Praxeas]

You know what is really precious? These people that left the UPC who say they have no axes to grind, no stones to throw lol....yeah right

and the moaning and griping about how you were treated?

I suppose that's your justification. I was treated bad so Im gonna treat every other "UPCer" bad

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I view that as agreeing with most of the statement, especially, the plan of salvation. I don't think you have to agree with all of it to sign it. It's the same as a Congressman putting his vote on a bill, IMO.. He signs it for the greater good of the bill. The plan of salvation trumps the "tv" or "uncut hair" issue for me.

I'm not likely to attend a church that preaches an AOG message - "Holy Ghost is not necessary, but it's nice for empowerment." Romans 8:9 tells me that is not true.

WOW!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

You know what is really precious? These people that left the UPC who say they have no axes to grind, no stones to throw lol....yeah right

and the moaning and griping about how you were treated?

I suppose that's your justification. I was treated bad so Im gonna treat every other "UPCer" bad

It's makes me want to be Conservative.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

Typical politician. The old "Change the Subject" trick! The facts always scare folks like you. Stop deviating from the topic of this Thread. Bottom line is, you are a hypocrite if you are on the Internet and cry wolf against TV.

Again, and I'll say AGAIN, I sent you a PM on the subject of Scripture, but all on AFF, I got NO RESPONSE! A gave you a thorough answer and admitted my struggles with our current Bible, but you just ignore everything I said.

I think you are the one who started the personal attacks.
I thought we were having a discussion regarding tv.
And learning a little about each other in the process.
You are the one who started shouting hypocrite.
And calling my sons hypocrites.
Ridiculous.
Now, I've got a busy evening ahead.
Later.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by jfrog

WOW!

A cult is when you, blindly, agree with everything, don't you think?