Rare Sister Charlotte Testimony - tortured nun

[Jay]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Please be aware that when I am talking about "local churches" it does not mean UPC or any other Oneness assemblies. They know different.

Correction, they should know better, but there are those who are so enamored by the 'results' of the television preachers that they happily follow in their steps.

[houston]

Originally Posted by Jay

Correction, they should know better, but there are those who are so enamored by the 'results' of the television preachers that they happily follow in their steps.

[Hoovie]

Yo Jay, is your church not still pastored by a UPC minister?

[houston]

not still...

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by houston

not still...

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Jay

T2W, I understand and was not trying to start an argument. I felt that each of those points raised would need to be addressed separately, especially considering that during this same era there were people who traveled pretending to be preachers of the Gospel, but were actually stealing and lying to the people with lying wonders. Many times these people were not brought to justice as they skipped out just ahead of the mob (Mark Twain depicts just such a scene in Huckleberry Finn).

Also as most of her abuse occurred in a foreign country, she would not have had the recourse possible in the United States. This was also a time when Italy and Spain were more Catholic than secular. I do not remember where she was held, but it was obvious that there was a very strong cultic influence on the nuns in the cloister.

We had a cloistered convent that had been closed withing a few hours drive of us, when we lived in Kansas. One of the ladies of the church had visited it several years before, and when the pastor of the church promoted Sis. Charlotte's book, reported that she had seen very similar things remaining from the defunct cloister there.

As to how they get away with it? How was it that Gacy, BTK, the Zodiac, and other horrible serial killers go for years and kill unknown numbers of people without being caught? How do the perpetrators of domestic violence escape from justice?

The answer to every single question is the same. The air or respectability provides them cover to hide the darkness inside their souls. Sometimes they are so well hid that any who report them are not believed until it is too late. At that time there are questions asked as to why no one knew or believed. If one looks at the RCC with the same vision, we are asking the same questions that we do when confronted by abuse or murder.

To quote Charlotte: "...you would not believe what is done...under the cloak of religion..."

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

Than just on your word I am more likely to find her believeable. Her book was very surreal and not very convincing, sorry.

I have not seen nor read the book, but I heard with my own ears, from Charlotte's own mouth, her story in full, two different times. Her love for the Lord and her sincerity was extremely evident in person, I cannot speak for the book.

I believe you are sincere in your opinion, the story is extremely gruesome and painful to hear. I listened to some of the tapes of her speaking many years later and it was so painful that I could not continue to listen. Had I not meet her, seen and heard her speak, I very well might be skeptical.

[Falla39]

Isaiah 61:1
The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound

Luke 4:18
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

Heb. 13:8
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever”.

Sis. Charlotte escaped, not once, but twice from the convent which was her "prison" for 23 yrs. Her dear Methodist neighbor had told her, "Charlotte, I am going to pray every day until God delivers you from that place". After Charlotte escaped that dear neighbor told her she HAD prayed for her every day. God sees the heart and knows those who will hear His Voice, after HE has set them free.
No doubt Charlotte was the "voice crying in the wilderness", that God chose for this deliverance. And tell it she did.

Reminds me of my dear paternal grandmother, a devout Bible reading, praying Methodist, who lay dying of typhoid fever in 1926. The doctor told her husband she was dying, indicated by the blue on her feet and legs. This young mother of three small children breathed a sincere prayer, "LORD, IF YOU would see fit, let me live to raise my three children". She lapsed into a coma. She awoke the next evening, her fever had broke, she was hungry and thirsty. Not only did she live to raise her three children (Dad was 8 when the dr said she was dying). she lived to see our first grandson born. She died in 1984, 20 days before her 87th birthday.

God didn't just let her live, but she was the one, who GOD chose to lead (5 generations of her family to Apostolic Pentecostal Truth. The 6th generation has begun.) GOD didn't just deliver her from death to continue on in her religious tradition. He brought her out of darkness into His Marvelous LIGHT, which were not a people, but are now the people of GOD.

Is it a wonder why I believe Charlotte's story. I had heard my grandmother and her son, our late father, relate the story many, many times.
Not only Charlotte and Lizzie Blakey, but could it be that they were of those which was liken unto those spoken of in Rev.7: 13,14.

And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. (Didn't say THE great tribulation. Jesus told his disciples that in this world they would have tribulation (again it does not say THE great tribulation). But Jesus told them to be of GOOD CHEER, for HE had overcome the world. So they could too.

Rev.12:11
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

And let us not forget Heb.11:32-40

32 And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets:

33 Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions.

34 Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens.

35 Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection:

36 And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment:

37 They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented;

38 (Of whom the world was not worthy they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth.

39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:

40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect. (The whole 11th chapter of Hebrews is powerful!)

Falla39

[Jay]

Originally Posted by houston

Originally Posted by Hoovie

Yo Jay, is your church not still pastored by a UPC minister?

Nope, we switched affiliations in 2008. We are now WPF. However, we have maintained fellowship with some who are still in the UPC.

[mfblume]

Charlotte used to take aside the women in her meetings after her testimony and show them the scars all over her back from the whipping she received as described in her testimony.