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Old 11-10-2007, 06:04 AM
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Just from what I know I have a few friends who are actually PAW. In fact, one is a preacher.

Just speaking from the ones I know they arent die hard oneness. I dont understand why they would allow a trinitarian to preach to there people.

I dont believe the Oneness message is preached strong in the PAW at least not to services I have attended there.
Is a Oneness or hell message a "strong" message or a weak message?
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Old 11-10-2007, 08:56 AM
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They couldn't find any Twoness preachers?
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Old 11-10-2007, 08:22 PM
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Just reverse this scenario and you have some of the trinitarians saying the same thing.
OK ... not sure exactly what your point is, nwlife.

My point here is pretty simple. If you hold that a key doctrinal position is true, then your choice of who you bring into your pulpit should reflect that, rather than compromising your convictions. And if you hold that a particular position (like Trinity/baptism into titles) is false doctrine, then you shouldn't bring a false doctrine preacher to preach to your people.
Do you disagree with that? If so, Please tell us why.

And "reversing the scenario", as you put it...if a Trinitarian pastor was to refuse to allow a Oneness preacher in his pulpit, then, even though I disagree with his doctrine, I would still respect the fact that he is being true to his convictions. (No inconsistency there at all, in my book.)

So, based on your response to my post, what are you really saying? ...that we should allow Trinitarian preachers to preach in Oneness pulpits? And if so, why?.. would it be because, as you say, if we "reverse this scenario... you have some of the trinitarians saying the same thing" ? Why would it even matter what 'some of the trinitarians' would say? I'm not sure why thats even a relevant issue.

Fact is, either we're going to be Apostolic or we're not. Either Oneness/Acts 2:38 matters, or it really doesn't. Either we hold fast to what we know to be the truth, and resist compromise, or we don't.

Frankly, I'm not going to be a part of any church that brings a Trinitarian to the pulpit to preach to me. I don't know if you're ok with that kind of thing, but I certainly am not.
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Old 11-10-2007, 08:43 PM
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I don't know who the speakers are or what they preach, but I do have a CD of Morton and Choir with the lead singer speaking in tongues...might even be Paul himself. But don't many African-American Baptist churches believe in baptizing in Jesus and Name and receiving the Holy Ghost?
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Old 11-11-2007, 01:35 AM
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All I was saying is many of the trinitarians will say the same thing, but just from their perspective...say no oneness in their pulpits. what else would it be by saying "in reverse"?
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Old 11-11-2007, 02:58 PM
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All I was saying is many of the trinitarians will say the same thing, but just from their perspective...say no oneness in their pulpits. what else would it be by saying "in reverse"?
Well, that's understood. It seemed as if there was some other point you were making, or to trying to make, with the previous comment.

Sure, they say that about Oneness preachers, and they have for generations.
We've long known that. Frankly, I don't think we should be all that concerned about their opinion of us, although clearly there are quite a few Apostolics who are.

You'll never see a oneness preacher invited to an AG church to preach. Apostolics are the ones who seem to want to compromise with Trinitarians, in order to win their favor. You generally don't see Trinitarians caring too much about trying to appease our side or meet with our approval as much as you Apostolics try to do the same with the Trinitarians. Just my 2 cents.
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:43 AM
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Well, that's understood. It seemed as if there was some other point you were making, or to trying to make, with the previous comment.

Sure, they say that about Oneness preachers, and they have for generations.
We've long known that. Frankly, I don't think we should be all that concerned about their opinion of us, although clearly there are quite a few Apostolics who are.

You'll never see a oneness preacher invited to an AG church to preach. Apostolics are the ones who seem to want to compromise with Trinitarians, in order to win their favor. You generally don't see Trinitarians caring too much about trying to appease our side or meet with our approval as much as you Apostolics try to do the same with the Trinitarians. Just my 2 cents.
Hmmm....I have gotten to minister quite a few times in trinitarian churches, I have standing invitation at 2 churches right now. As for the AOG, there is always a first...I got too many relatives in the AOG churches including a pastor, so who knows!!!
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