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Originally Posted by rdp
Paul explicitly forbids women teachers/preachers in I Tim. 2, buttressing his argument by refferring back to the creation order [OT], same Holy Spirit.
Besides, what passage in the OT explicitly says it's okay for women to pastor? See how easy it is to turn this around? This seems silly since Pastors are for the NT church economy, not the OT. Just another desperate attempt to preove what's not found in the text of God's Word.
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See the point I am making how mans traditions strech the word to fit their own platform.
Paul explicitly
forbids women teachers/preachers in
I Tim. 2, lets look at this verse.
Tell me where you get forbids out of (suffer not, kjv/ do not allow, isv/ permit not, asv/ to just name a few trans.
1Ti 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1Ti 2:12 Moreover, I do not allow a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. Instead, she is to be quiet.
1Ti 2:12 But I permit not a woman to teach, nor to have dominion over a man, but to be in quietness.
This was Pauls own teaching for that day following the customs of that day. Yes women should follow the headship of her husband and all things must be done decently and in order but this does not mean God does not use women to preach or teach.
One final thought for those that think like the Roman Catholic that the preist is the only one that can interpret scripture and is the preist between the rest of man and God.
Heb 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.
This passage does not give you that authority!!! The word Obey here means by persuasion. In other words just becuase you (pastors) say it is the word of God does not mean we are to just roll over and accept it. It means we are to be fully persuaded by seaking out the scriptures for ourselves. Maybe if this happened more often we would nothave so many false teachings and traditions of men in the church.
Children are to obey their parents adults are to study to show themselves approved Paul says for us to get off the milk of the word and grow up. The church is full of children that don't want to give up their pacifiers and as a result they are lead by too many pastors that never grew up themselves but just accepted what was passed down to them by there pastor/teacher.
Saints everwhere get into the word with prayer,study to show yourself approved.
but are you one of those odd and strange people that Fox News warned me about?
John 14:16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counsellor to be with you for ever 17 The Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.
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