Apology to World

[Walks_in_islam]

Soun let's talk about dead children:

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/

Review this nice (high-resolution) video (courtesy of National Security Archives) of Donald Rumsfield shaking Saddam Hussein's hand in 1983 as part of "renewed ties between the US and Iraq". Doesn't Rumsfield look hearty and young?

Nice of the US to supply military aid and "pesticide precursers" to the iraqis. Nice of you to point out how the "aid" resulted in so many dead iranian children. You dare to speak to me of dead children? What do YOU people care about dead brown-skinned children (unless of course you can use them to "whip up some political will" to go pound on some more brown people)

What were your mines doing in the ground over there in the first place? The children you read about are part of the "lesson" we taught the Ayatollah. I guess we showed them didn't we? The kids are still dead and the Ayatollah is still there.

DISCLAIMER: At least Rumsfield got to make it right by killing some iraqi children on his way out. That makes up for the "handshake deal" he made with ole Hussein right?

Where else have Rumsfield and Cheney been and whose children will be dead because of their actions next?

The nuclear program of Iran was launched in the 1950s with the help of the United States as part of the Atoms for Peace program.

"Atoms for Peace" <shakes head>

President Gerald Ford signed a directive in 1976 offering Tehran the chance to buy and operate a U.S.-built reprocessing facility for extracting plutonium from nuclear reactor fuel. The deal was for a complete 'nuclear fuel cycle'."[38] At the time, Richard Cheney was the White House Chief of Staff, and Donald Rumsfeld was the Secretary of Defense.

The people of the world do NOT thank you for your "gifts and support to their totalitarian leaders" nor do they think your self-interests or pocketbooks is a fair trade for the lives of their children. I doubt that either dick or donnie will apologize to the world but they dam sure owe our young men who fight one side then the other a big public one and a clear explanation of what exactly they are sending them over there to fight for and clean up. At least the current president, who by the way can still flip the switch and turn all of our lights out, can man up, look at this mess, admit mistake, and face it head on.

Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY

WII, tell us about child abuse.


Excerpts from Hosken Report, Somalia Genital and Sexual Mutilation of Females, Fourth Revised Edition(Women’s International Network News) (PDF 66 KB): "The child, completely naked, is made to sit on a low stool. Several women take hold of her and open her legs wide. After separating her outer and inner lips, the operator, usually a woman experienced in this procedure, sits down facing the child. With her kitchen knife the operator first pierces and slices open the hood of the clitoris. Then she begins to cut it out. While another woman wipes off the blood with a rag, the operator digs with her sharp fingernail a hole the length of the clitoris to detach and pull out the organ. The little girl, held down by the women helpers, screams in extreme pain; but no one pays the slightest attention.The operator finishes this job by entirely pulling out the clitoris, cutting it to the bone with her knife. Her helpers again wipe off the spurting blood with a rag. The operator then removes the remaining flesh, digging with her finger to remove any remnant of the clitoris among the flowing blood. The neighbor women are then invited to plunge their fingers into the bloody hole to verify that every piece of the clitoris is removed."

Or this:

Ahmadinejad's Demons (Matthias Küntzel, The New Republic, Apr 24, 2006): During the Iran-Iraq War, the Ayatollah Khomeini imported 500,000 small plastic keys from Taiwan. ... To compensate for their disadvantage, Khomeini sent Iranian children, some as young as twelve years old, to the front lines. There, they marched in formation across minefields toward the enemy, clearing a path with their bodies. Before every mission, one of the Taiwanese keys would be hung around each child’s neck. It was supposed to open the gates to paradise for them. At one point, however, the earthly gore became a matter of concern. “In the past,” wrote the semi-official Iranian daily Ettelaat as the war raged on, “we had child-volunteers: 14-, 15-, and 16-year-olds. They went into the minefields. Their eyes saw nothing. Their ears heard nothing. And then, a few moments later, one saw clouds of dust. When the dust had settled again, there was nothing more to be seen of them. Somewhere, widely scattered in the landscape, there lay scraps of burnt flesh and pieces of bone.” Such scenes would henceforth be avoided, Ettelaat assured its readers. “Before entering the minefields, the children [now] wrap themselves in blankets and they roll on the ground, so that their body parts stay together after the explosion of the mines and one can carry them to the graves.” In the name of allah

Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Khomeini's Religious Teachings on Marriage, Divorce and Relationships (Parvin Darabi, USA-based Dr. Homa Darabi Foundation website, Jun 10, 2006: "A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual act such as forplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not comitted a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man's four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl's sister."

Mutilated baby at Shia Muslim Ashura festival

[SOUNWORTHY]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Soun let's talk about dead children:

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/

Review this nice (high-resolution) video (courtesy of National Security Archives) of Donald Rumsfield shaking Saddam Hussein's hand in 1983 as part of "renewed ties between the US and Iraq". Doesn't Rumsfield look hearty and young?

Nice of the US to supply military aid and "pesticide precursers" to the iraqis. Nice of you to point out how the "aid" resulted in so many dead iranian children. You dare to speak to me of dead children? What do YOU people care about dead brown-skinned children (unless of course you can use them to "whip up some political will" to go pound on some more brown people)

What were your mines doing in the ground over there in the first place? The children you read about are part of the "lesson" we taught the Ayatollah. I guess we showed them didn't we? The kids are still dead and the Ayatollah is still there.

DISCLAIMER: At least Rumsfield got to make it right by killing some iraqi children on his way out. That makes up for the "handshake deal" he made with ole Hussein right?

Where else have Rumsfield and Cheney been and whose children will be dead because of their actions next?

The nuclear program of Iran was launched in the 1950s with the help of the United States as part of the Atoms for Peace program.

"Atoms for Peace" <shakes head>

President Gerald Ford signed a directive in 1976 offering Tehran the chance to buy and operate a U.S.-built reprocessing facility for extracting plutonium from nuclear reactor fuel. The deal was for a complete 'nuclear fuel cycle'."[38] At the time, Richard Cheney was the White House Chief of Staff, and Donald Rumsfeld was the Secretary of Defense.

The people of the world do NOT thank you for your "gifts and support to their totalitarian leaders" nor do they think your self-interests or pocketbooks is a fair trade for the lives of their children. I doubt that either dick or donnie will apologize to the world but they dam sure owe our young men who fight one side then the other a big public one and a clear explanation of what exactly they are sending them over there to fight for and clean up. At least the current president, who by the way can still flip the switch and turn all of our lights out, can man up, look at this mess, admit mistake, and face it head on.

Our young men? Remember you aren't part of us any longer. You turned tail and ran. At least OUR young men volunteered. They didn't have bombs strapped to them nor were they sent out to clear mine fields as children.

[Walks_in_islam]

Not part of what? Ran from what?

You, thankfully, do not decide what I am or am not a part of. The founding fathers who wrote their nicely worded versions of "church people do not decide who and who is not part of america every time they hear something they do not want to hear" decided that for you. I know they (or you either) probably do not teach that secular stuff in ACE history classes. You should. lol

By saying "Turning tail and running" you are trying to imply cowardice of some sort? (laughing) Nice try. You KNOW where I live dude? I do not think there are "Geography PACEs" at all are there? Cowardice and "turning tail and running" can be defined as simply as forming your own all-white ACE schools in the burbs and running from the brown people in the evil "public school system" rather than demanding that your schools are cleaned up. Dont you rep for ACE? Brave boy. I forgot you are a "teacher" If you only teach "all white christians" you are not a teacher at all - you have turned tail. From your own community. Since ACE does not teach "secular history" and I doubt that there is any note of events leading up to the war in Iraq I will offer my own definition of cowardice:

Cowardice is finding a Hussein, making buddies with him, giving him arms to teach another country a lesson (because you couldn't organize a 4-5 helicoptor rescue mission without bumping the coptors into one another), turning your head for (2) decades while he butchers everyone in sight, then sending someone (else) in to clean up after yourselves. You can easily find cowardice. Cowardice sits up in Washington year after year.

"Turn tail and run" is what the choppers did after the failed hostage rescue mission in Iran.

Bravery is a mother who buys property in Crawford, Tx then stands out in front of that property day after day, and demanding an answer for the cowardice above. THAT lady is a true American. Bravery is locking, loading, and cleaning up your own messes. That is what our soldiers do.

I am a white boy from Texas. I LIVE among the "brown people" who YOU would be terrified of in your little organized ACE world. Some of these people see me and hate me JUST because they think I am like YOU. lol. I'm still here. There are no soldiers with guns or "security contractors" escorting me around here. "Security contractors" are hired by cowards to escort other cowards. Also unlike you, I actually send the money that you send to fund extremism BACK to the US where it gets safely tucked away. When I 'turn tail' I will be sure and let you know. In the meantime you keep your job "repping for ACE" whatever and keep retreating. You wouldnt last here. You wouldnt last in an average downtown area. lol

Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY

Our young men? Remember you aren't part of us any longer. You turned tail and ran. At least OUR young men volunteered. They didn't have bombs strapped to them nor were they sent out to clear mine fields as children.

[Pressing-On]

WII,
Are you going to see this movie?

http://www.thestoning.com/

[Walks_in_islam]

I dunno. Why do you ask?

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

WII,
Are you going to see this movie?

http://www.thestoning.com/

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

I dunno. Why do you ask?

Just got a notice at Twitter and wondered what you thought about it?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Soun let's talk about dead children:

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/

Review this nice (high-resolution) video (courtesy of National Security Archives) of Donald Rumsfield shaking Saddam Hussein's hand in 1983 as part of "renewed ties between the US and Iraq". Doesn't Rumsfield look hearty and young?

Nice of the US to supply military aid and "pesticide precursers" to the iraqis. Nice of you to point out how the "aid" resulted in so many dead iranian children. You dare to speak to me of dead children? What do YOU people care about dead brown-skinned children (unless of course you can use them to "whip up some political will" to go pound on some more brown people)

WE did not plant mines. WE did not gas those kids. You want to be mad at Rumsfield, go ahead. BTW Half of the American population has brown skin

What were your mines doing in the ground over there in the first place? The children you read about are part of the "lesson" we taught the Ayatollah. I guess we showed them didn't we? The kids are still dead and the Ayatollah is still there.

Our mines in Iraq? Iran? I doubt it. Iraq got it's hardware from Russia

DISCLAIMER: At least Rumsfield got to make it right by killing some iraqi children on his way out. That makes up for the "handshake deal" he made with ole Hussein right?

Your issue is between Saddam and Rumsfield

Where else have Rumsfield and Cheney been and whose children will be dead because of their actions next?

Same as above. take it up with them. This has nothing to do with religion

The nuclear program of Iran was launched in the 1950s with the help of the United States as part of the Atoms for Peace program.

"Atoms for Peace" <shakes head>

This had absolutely NOTHING to do with bombs. It was a program based on using nuclear material for good purposes

President Gerald Ford signed a directive in 1976 offering Tehran the chance to buy and operate a U.S.-built reprocessing facility for extracting plutonium from nuclear reactor fuel. The deal was for a complete 'nuclear fuel cycle'."[38] At the time, Richard Cheney was the White House Chief of Staff, and Donald Rumsfeld was the Secretary of Defense.

Had nothing to do with giving Iran a bomb

[Newman]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Not part of what? Ran from what?


By saying "Turning tail and running" you are trying to imply cowardice of some sort? (laughing) Nice try. You KNOW where I live dude? I do not think there are "Geography PACEs" at all are there? Cowardice and "turning tail and running" can be defined as simply as forming your own all-white ACE schools in the burbs and running from the brown people in the evil "public school system" rather than demanding that your schools are cleaned up. Dont you rep for ACE? Brave boy. I forgot you are a "teacher" If you only teach "all white christians" you are not a teacher at all - you have turned tail. From your own community. Since ACE does not teach "secular history" and I doubt that there is any note of events leading up to the war in Iraq I will offer my own definition of cowardice:


I am a white boy from Texas. I LIVE among the "brown people" who YOU would be terrified of in your little organized ACE world. Some of these people see me and hate me JUST because they think I am like YOU. lol. I'm still here.

There are no soldiers with guns or "security contractors" escorting me around here. "Security contractors" are hired by cowards to escort other cowards.

Wii-

1. Were you raised in a racist family or is the racism coming from your new identity as an enlightened Muslim?

2. Why would you need security contractors to escort you around given that you would not strike anyone as remotely Ameican?

[Walks_in_islam]

You provided the means and support for these things to happen

Originally Posted by Praxeas

WE did not plant mines. WE did not gas those kids. You want to be mad at Rumsfield, go ahead. BTW Half of the American population has brown skin

WE shipped arms. WE shipped dual-purpose "insecticide precurser". I'm betting that half your church doesnt have brown skin.

Our mines in Iraq? Iran? I doubt it. Iraq got it's hardware from Russia

Russia made a deliberate decision to stay out of the Iran/Iraq war. Iraq got it's hardware from the US. You telling me Reagan sent rumsfield over there to drop by, shake hands, and say hello? lol Your opinion, though fascinating, is in contradiction to history.

Your issue is between Saddam and Rumsfield

My issue is the callous shipment of arms all over the world then the denial of responsibility to the victims that they are used on. If you don't want the people of the world all shot up quit shipping over and supplying the means to do it to whoever has the deep pockets of the week. The fact that Rumsfield got a photo-op with his buddy Saddam was just an interesting (funny) bonus. Glad I'm not buddies with cheney or rumsfield. <especially hunting buddies?>

Same as above. take it up with them. This has nothing to do with religion

Neither does this topic. It has to do with an apology to the world. (Did you read the title?) If you want to discuss religion either start a topic on religion (oh I forgot you started dozens of anti-islam / anti-muslim topics already that nobody comments on) or go find one that has already been started. Maybe the one "obama is the antichrist" will be more interesting to your fans than "the islamic mahdi is the antichrist". OH. Maybe start one that says "the pope is the antichrist". All your "enemies" would be covered. Non-whites, catholics, and muslims. The current pentecostal "going to hell list". lol @ "Black Ministry" on the pentecostal website. What, you still have separate churches? Is that perhaps a typo?

This had absolutely NOTHING to do with bombs. It was a program based on using nuclear material for good purposes

Tell THAT to whoever's children are next. In the 1950's "atoms for peace" meant buying into the M.A.D. game. "Peace" meant making the other guy afraid to act and ensure that there was enough stuff aimed around the world that nobody had the wherewithal to take the chance to push the button.
Using "atoms" in the same sentence as "peace" in that context is kind of like calling the Colt revolver a "peacemaker" lol and wait - it was called one!

Maybe Rumsfield is the anti-christ!! <note of possible topic>

Had nothing to do with giving Iran a bomb

Had everything to do with giving Iran the technology to make one

[Walks_in_islam]

??

Originally Posted by Newman

Wii-

1. Were you raised in a racist family or is the racism coming from your new identity as an enlightened Muslim?

What makes you think I am a racist? (I admit I do believe the "christian right" has a few among their midst) OK, I think most of them are. Must be the makeup of the "huckabee" audiences

2. Why would you need security contractors to escort you around given that you would not strike anyone as remotely Ameican?

(laughing) I am obviously american