Don't you miss the days of Pres. BC?

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by ChTatum

Hmmmmmmhhhhhh, let me think......................................













































NO!

Profound! I agree. LOL

here's what Aquila posted earlier:


Also, gay people are tax paying citizens too. I don't like their lifestyle and I think it's sin. However, I don't think it's the government's job to be policing marriage. It's a private issue for private citizens living in a free country. I preach against it, I admonish any homosexual I know to build a relationship with Jesus Christ, and I'd never perform a gay wedding. However, I don't think the government's job is to stop gay people from marrying. Frankly, it could be argued that if anyone is going to have sex (gay or straight) they should be legally obligated to the other individual.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Now that we have beat the abortion thing to the ground, just curious should the government allow gay marriage???

In my opinion, marriage in general is none of the government's business. Historically speaking, marriage was a private contract between two private individuals. Marriage licenses were only issued to try to prevent whites from marrying blacks. As far as I'm concerned marriage should return to being a private contract between two individuals and their faith community. It's none of the government's business who you or I marry. The Government should get out of the marriage business.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Oh my goodness.

Reality check....abortion isn't going away and they will never outlaw it in the United States.

Also, gay people are tax paying citizens too. I don't like their lifestyle and I think it's sin. However, I don't think it's the government's job to be policing marriage. It's a private issue for private citizens living in a free country. I preach against it, I admonish any homosexual I know to build a relationship with Jesus Christ, and I'd never perform a gay wedding. However, I don't think the government's job is to stop gay people from marrying. Frankly, it could be argued that if anyone is going to have sex (gay or straight) they should be legally obligated to the other individual.

I have an uncle-in-law who's an Anglican Bishop. He's what I call an "ultra-liberal" and we like to have a friendly debate every so often. He personally supports gay marriage and follows a liberal interpretation of the Bible wherein he doesn't believe it's a sin. Many churches he frequents also don't believe it's a sin and they are strong advocates of gay marriage for the gay members of their congregations. Now, I disagree with him personally here, but he brought up an interesting point. He believes that the religious liberties of liberal Christians are infringed upon by gay marriage bans. He believes that their churches should have the right to recognize and solemnize anything their faith allows. He sees codifying MY religious beliefs and banning his as a form of discrimination against the Anglican Church's religious liberties. That could be said for any liberal Christian denomination.

So as you can see, it's more than just a privacy issue... it's also an issue of religious liberty.

Do I agree with it, no. But I believe America should be a free country where people can live and believe as they choose. When I was in the Army I had to come to grips with that because I was prepared to die for my country, even though the vast majority of my country's people and laws are what I call "unChristian". So I realized that I'm not fighting to preserve a "Christian Country"... I was defending a "Free Country" where people can be free, including the worst of sinners.

Maybe that makes me unChristian. But that's my angle.

You want a reality check?

It is an abomination to God to shed innocent blood of the unborn, it is an abomination for gays to be together.

If you think God will not judge America for this you are living in a tree.

What an individual chooses to do is their doings but when the government/Nation decides to not only allow it but PAY for it, is too far. IMO

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Esther

You want a reality check?

It is an abomination to God to shed innocent blood of the unborn, it is an abomination for gays to be together.

If you think God will not judge America for this you are living in a tree.

What an individual chooses to do is their doings but when the government/Nation decides to not only allow it but PAY for it, is too far. IMO

Walk on through there!

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Aquila

In my opinion, marriage in general is none of the government's business. Historically speaking, marriage was a private contract between two private individuals. Marriage licenses were only issued to try to prevent whites from marrying blacks. As far as I'm concerned marriage should return to being a private contract between two individuals and their faith community. It's none of the government's business who you or I marry. The Government should get out of the marriage business.

Since marriage licenses are a reality and not going anywhere, should states give marriage licenses to homosexuals??

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Since marriage licenses are a reality and not going anywhere, should states give marriage licenses to homosexuals??

I don't miss the days of BC, but I respected the good things that happened on his watch and give him credit for his leadership.

No, states should not sanction marriages between homosexuals. States could allow some sort of legal protections for them in a way that would not be abused by heterosexuals who are shacking up.

[jaxfam6]

Originally Posted by Aquila

LOL You aint right.

I am entitled to my opinion.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I don't miss the days of BC, but I respected the good things that happened on his watch and give him credit for his leadership.

No, states should not sanction marriages between homosexuals. States could allow some sort of legal protections for them in a way that would not be abused by heterosexuals who are shacking up.

Let's get this straight, legal protection for two men shacking up but worrying about a man/women shacking up abusing it, amazing. If your refering to civil unions, that's like marriage, I say give em nothing. Give em "union" then that will lead to marriage, because they will say what's the difference give it to them.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Esther

You want a reality check?

It is an abomination to God to shed innocent blood of the unborn, it is an abomination for gays to be together.

If you think God will not judge America for this you are living in a tree.

What an individual chooses to do is their doings but when the government/Nation decides to not only allow it but PAY for it, is too far. IMO

God judges people, not nations. God is no longer working according to the nationalist paradigm.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Aquila

God judges people, not nations. God is no longer working according to the nationalist paradigm.

How ye knoweth this?