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04-04-2007, 10:40 AM
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God's Son
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Is this your response to underachieving as a minister of the gospel?
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Welfare is alive in Pentecost today.
1. Feed me preacher, move me preacher, or I'll go to the megachurch down the street.
2. Provide entertainment for my kids preacher, but not BIBLE STUDY for them. They are not mature enough to Get It yet. Keep it simple and fun, okay?
3. Uhmm, could you reduce the amount of services we have preacher? I am awfully busy out here. Don't you even care about my life and my things? I need you to be more SENSITIVE preacher.
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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04-04-2007, 10:42 AM
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Registered Member
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: East Texas
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Originally Posted by Kutless
I love my church, my pastor, etc. I'm involved whole hearted. I believe its of utmost importance.
But if you think for a second one should walk away from a sick kid or cancel much needed family devotion. Or neglect family time?????
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No one ever said anything about leaving a sick kid and family devotion should be done on other nights besides church.
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04-04-2007, 10:44 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Welfare is alive in Pentecost today.
1. Feed me preacher, move me preacher, or I'll go to the megachurch down the street.
2. Provide entertainment for my kids preacher, but not BIBLE STUDY for them. They are not mature enough to Get It yet. Keep it simple and fun, okay?
3. Uhmm, could you reduce the amount of services we have preacher? I am awfully busy out here. Don't you even care about my life and my things? I need you to be more SENSITIVE preacher.
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Well let's see,If the preachers that this was being said to would get them saved they woun't be saying things like that.Preach the truth and run them off or let them run for no reason.Either way they run.
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04-04-2007, 10:44 AM
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just lurking...
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Sounds like you have an intense dislike for work.
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Oh yeah? Well I'm Rubber and You're Glue!
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04-04-2007, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by tv1a
Is this your response to underachieving as a minister of the gospel?
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Yes. I am more than an underchiever.
Are you sure I really minister the gospel?
I mean I'm a UPC preacher and all. Aren't we all out to steal your money, preach legalism, and ask you to be faithful to church? You call that the gospel?
So tell me tv, when do you buy your groceries? First of the month?
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04-04-2007, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Are you kidding? No one would show up. We're too busy.
Plus, our favorite shows may be on.
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Yes and you might be fishing
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04-04-2007, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Joelel
Yes and you might be fishing
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Yep.
I also like fantasy baseball, long walks in the country, softball, a good movie every now and then, and kissing my sweetie.
But none of that interferes with my committment to God and His body.
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04-04-2007, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
4. Oh, by the way preacher, I won't be here for the next two weeks. I'm going out of town with some friends. The rest of my family will be here though.
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But I'll send my tithes so i can still sing in the choir when i get back so you don't think i backslid.Even though tithes aren't scripture in the new testement.
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04-04-2007, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Joelel
But I'll send my tithes so i can still sing in the choir when i get back so you don't think i backslid.Even though tithes aren't scripture in the new testement.
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Too late.
Giving your tithe is the least of your worries, maam.
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04-04-2007, 10:58 AM
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God's Son
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I don't catch the connection between my grocery buying habits and your bellyaching because you can't develop strong Christians. I never insinuated you fleece the flock and hound over them with a stick. I've found most preachers tend to blame the congregation for their underacheivement. That isn't always the case. If you believe that changing methodology is equivelent to changing the message than you need to study the ministry of Jesus, and the ministry of Paul. They were two of the best in adapting their message to the environment. Paul went as far as quoting pagan literature in his epistles and in a sermon, but the message was the same. If you do what you've always done, you'll get what you've always got. If you don't want to change methodolgies, don't bellyache when people go elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Yes. I am more than an underchiever.
Are you sure I really minister the gospel?
I mean I'm a UPC preacher and all. Aren't we all out to steal your money, preach legalism, and ask you to be faithful to church? You call that the gospel?
So tell me tv, when do you buy your groceries? First of the month?
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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