UPC - "Apostolic" Wesleyan Holiness Standards

Originally Posted by Barb

Seems the longer I remain on this board, the more my head spins in amazement at what I didn't know about the Church I was raised in...whew!!

Have you read Christianity Without the Cross? It is pretty scary!

Originally Posted by Ronzo

Nope. You're wrong.

Holiness and seperation are not being attacked or downplayed.

Your misunderstanding of what holiness and seperation is... is what is being attacked.

Amen Ron, so very true!

[Whole Hearted]

Originally Posted by Bishop1

"Sack Cloths and Ashes "

Sack Cloths and Ashes may be needed today,
and while my wife is pulling out the trusty old
Singer , I will gladly provide the ashes _ _ _
{my wife cooked a burnt offering today} -

I personally was acquainted with the Goss's.
I well remember him sitting across the kitchen table
from me in our home on 512 West Grove Street
in Mishawaka Indiana -


Bishop Howard A Goss was a huge bear of a man,
well educated, former football player, and the
First General Superintendent Of The Assembles
Of God,
then PCI
and later the First G S of the UPC.

At The Great Conferance at Jackson Tennessee
{during the mid Teens} Approximately 45% of the
Ministers In The Assemblies Of God Embraced The
New Issue Doctrine and were subsequently Re-Baptized
In JESUS Name at tat time thus dealing a crushing blow
to that Organization.

Bishop Howard A Goss Was One Of The Ministers That
Accepted The Revelation Of The Godhead without Question.

During The Teens, Twenties, and the Thirties
The Churches in the Holiness Movements were as follows;

# 1 - Pentecostal Churches of the Apostolic Faith
# 2 - Pentecostal Churches of Jesus Christ
# 3 - Church of God
# 4 - Churches of The Lord Jesus Christ
# 5 - Pentecostal Church of God
# 6 - Pentecostal Holiness
# 7 - Pentecostal Church Incorporated
# 8 - Assemblies of God
# 9 - Church of Jesus Christ
# 10 - Conregational Holiness
# 11 - Wesllyan Holiness
# 12 - Nazerine

* Please note -
I have listed them in the order of their strictness
on outward holiness -
The PCI came out of the Assemblies of GOD and
their stand on outward Holiness was similar.

I well remember the Churches in Tennessee, Mississippi,
Alabama and Georgia were lookalikes with the Assemblies
of God in outward dress such as
trimmed hair, bangs, cap sleeves, short sleeves, Rings,
modest necklaces, HAIR CLIPS, HAIR STICKS, HAIR BARRETTES
and BROACHES.

After Bishop Arthur T Morgan, of the PAJC backgrown,
became the Superindendent of the UPC a stricter outward
standard of Outward Dress began to be stressed.

The First Jewelry Sermon may have been Preached By Elder
Carl Ballestero during The Great San Antonio UPCI Conference
in the mid Sixties -

You will still find Short Sleeves,
Rings,
Pins,
Hair Sticks,
Jeweled Hair Barretts
and Broaches
in the UPCI Churches
Of The PCI Decent -


Posted In Luv
by yours truly


Bishop1

Totally untrue. My great grand parents came into this truth isn't the early 20's and they said that they always heard jewelry preached against.

[Whole Hearted]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Howard Goss is not the father of the Oneness movement who cares what he thought????????? He was wrong about alot of stuff more important than jewelry. There were folks who wore jewelry and some didn't just like today.

Amen Elder

[Neck]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

tsk tsk tsk.

AB never mentioned cut hair either.

Try again, please?

BOOMM, DO you preach that a woman should shave her head if she cuts it?

I would think standard preachers should take it all the way....

What doth hinder thee?

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

Totally untrue. My great grand parents came into this truth isn't the early 20's and they said that they always heard jewelry preached against.

Good greif Whole Hearted..are ya calling the Bishop a ..... his entire post just a pack of lies.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

Totally untrue. My great grand parents came into this truth isn't the early 20's and they said that they always heard jewelry preached against.

I don't think you want to call Bishop1 a liar .. WH ... just a gut feeling ....

Originally Posted by freeatlast

Good greif Whole Hearted..are ya calling the Bishop a .....

Everyone's a liar here... I wonder why WH is even sticking around.

Oh... I know why... he's a Crusdaer wrestling the forum from the hands of us infidels.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Ronzo

Everyone's a liar here... I wonder why WH is even sticking around.

Oh... I know why... he's a Crusdaer wrestling the forum from the hands of us infidels.

WH ... A CRUSADER ...??? A cheerleader perhaps ...

[Whole Hearted]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

Good greif Whole Hearted..are ya calling the Bishop a ..... his entire post just a pack of lies.

I bolded the part about jewelry not being preached until the 60's. This is not true I don't car who says it. It was preach in east Texas in the 20's.