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01-10-2008, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
No, because some will overlook sin to be entertained.
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No they are not saying anything about over looking sin. What is wrong with you all? I can understand what he is saying. He is asking honest questions...has this man repented? If so why not give him a fair shake? Some say he has not repented? HOW do you know? I see rumors and gossip of the kind that has been condemned on this board before.
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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01-10-2008, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by StMark
acharris,
I'm not here to attack you Bruh,but try to understand that LW was in the UPC for probably over 30 years.A lot of people here know the whole history and i think what bothers a lot of people is that his sins involved young people and the fact that little if anything was done. I went to JCM myself so I have a little insight.
Perhaps if Lanny would make some type of restitution?? I don't know really
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Here is an interesting thing...you say this has happened. It was known and little to nothing was done. So the man was and is hung out to dry and branded for life....what happened to those people that looked the other way?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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01-10-2008, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Walkbyfaith7
I guess you missed the point but it doesn't surprise me much.
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Bro..in order for people to understand sarcasm you have to add a smiley or something otherwise it goes over our heads 
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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01-10-2008, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Rev
Go back and read the posts! Two years ago!
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Two years ago what? Someone is saying something happened a whole two years ago? Did he repent? Was it true?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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01-10-2008, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Theresa
I dont think ANYONE knows the truth about everything.
No one knows the whole story but LW..and God
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That is what I am saying. I remember when "the incident" happened, when he got arrested. Obviously the UPC has had a healthy grapevine for some time because it spread like wild fire...
And apparently according to some his "issue" was known about but nothing done. There are and have been other ministers to fall to different sins that are still ministering but received counseling...some thing they should have been stripped and kicked out of the UPC...then there are others that were protected and the victims were basically outcasts and labeled liars....whatever LW did....should not be justified but I wonder when the organizational uppers are going to repent if they have not already, for allowing this stuff.
Not only clamping down when it is found out, but rather than making them lepers of the org, we seek to bring healing to them as well as their victims
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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01-10-2008, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TRFrance
Prax... this is the problem here.
LW had a very well known and visible ministry.
When he fell into moral failure it was also became widlely known (within Apostolic /UPC circles primarily)
Therefore, if he has indeed repented, it is fair to expect him to at least once make some kind of public admission of wrongdoing and repentance. From all that we know, that has not happened... not in front of any church... not by a statement on his website... nothing.
Until LW publicly acknowledges his sin and the error of his ways, it is natural that Bible-believing saints will be skeptical of his "ministry". New Testament teaching is very clear that unrepentant "saints" should be treated as outcasts by the rest of the body, until they repent of their sinful ways. (Matt 18/ 1Cor 5)
We would hold a minister of the word to that standard. Why shouldn't a prominent "minister" of music be held to a similar standard?
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If he was basically chased OUT of that Apostolic circles I don't know how he can make a public declaration any UPCer would accept...not only that given the attitudes that we often see in Oneness circles an admission would NOT help LW. Some folks would just feel justified in how they branded him and ostracized him..in fact he'd probably be ostracized even more....we can forgive and heal adulterers, fornicators, porn addicts and drug users but not gays....
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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01-10-2008, 06:38 PM
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Was LW given a chance to not just come clean but to receive healing and restoration? Or was he immediately ostracized? Why would the man attempt to reconcile to a group that he feels don't want him anyways? I don't know what is true or not, but I do know I have seen some hateful attitudes towards people that were or are homosexuals. Adulterers we can fix....drug addicts we can fix....porn addicts we can fix...fornicators we can fix....gays seem to be persona non grata, no matter how much they say they are saved and repented.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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01-10-2008, 06:40 PM
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We need to learn how to restore people no matter what their sin. Everyone deserves a chance at grace.
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01-10-2008, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Joseph Miller
We need to learn how to restore people no matter what their sin. Everyone deserves a chance at grace.
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Im so glad to see you say that....but when it comes to homosexuality....I don't think we as an org are ready to do that
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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01-10-2008, 06:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Praxeas
Im so glad to see you say that....but when it comes to homosexuality....I don't think we as an org are ready to do that
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For some reason they would like a public apology. Is that demanded of in the scriptures?
Was Paul wrong for writing to the Galatians about Peter's sin of respect of persons? And did Paul say Peter gave a public apology?
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