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07-28-2008, 05:02 PM
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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Originally Posted by Hot Coffee Ms.
I think the young man's posts concerning the reputation of Bro. Lee Stoneking and Ruth Harvey and some others have been very much out of line.
I don't like it one little bit when someone's character or reputation is brought onto Question as has these two.
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I understand your concern. Several people's reputations have been brought into question on this forum, and when it's a conservative, the conservatives rally. When it's a liberal, the liberals rally.
On this forum, mostly what I've seen is the words and preaching of the two you mentioned have been questioned, not necessarily their character.
Those who did make personal insults have been infracted and apologized.
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07-28-2008, 05:03 PM
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Beautiful are the feet......
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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Originally Posted by Berkeley
Oneness is a core doctrine. Who said that sending trinnies to hell is a core doctrine?
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http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...761#post546761
This was in response to posts of some libs arguing against the assured hellboundness of trinitarians.
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07-28-2008, 05:05 PM
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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Originally Posted by Pianoman
What if I disagree with myself, then later read it and consider it bashing? Can I be assured that infractions will be pursued? If so, what if the infraction hurts my feelings?  |
This is a question I think Bill Pricie is most qualified to answer. 
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-28-2008, 05:08 PM
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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Originally Posted by Hot Coffee Ms.
I think the young man's posts concerning the reputation of Bro. Lee Stoneking and Ruth Harvey and some others have been very much out of line.
I don't like it one little bit when someone's character or reputation is brought onto Question as has these two.
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I agree. Many times I have come to the defense of LS by stating that I would trust him alone with my wife or daughter any day.
I have also stated that despite of the accusations that it is adornment I think RR's giant feathers are...er.....interesting.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-28-2008, 05:09 PM
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
I understand your concern. Several people's reputations have been brought into question on this forum, and when it's a conservative, the conservatives rally. When it's a liberal, the liberals rally.
On this forum, mostly what I've seen is the words and preaching of the two you mentioned have been questioned, not necessarily their character.
Those who did make personal insults have been infracted and apologized.
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That's good to know. I barely come here. I have heard both these people teach on hair but they themselves have not give it the label of Holy Hair, or Magic Hair Doctrine, that is a lable that has been given them by those who see nothing wrong with cutting their hair and it is very unkind. You can disagree as you say without making a mockery of what they believe and without the namecalling.
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07-28-2008, 05:10 PM
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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Originally Posted by Rico
Around here it really isn't the belief that causes trouble. The trouble comes with how things are worded. For example, if someone says, "I believe a woman is in danger of judgment for cutting her hair," it would be viewed as much less confrontational much than, "Any woman who cuts her hair is headed straight for Hell." The same belief was expressed in both statements. One statement invites discussion while the other is an invitation to argue.
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Yes...some need to take eloquence 101....I agree!! We have to be very careful how we express, because no one can see our facial expressions and body language. That changes everything!!
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07-28-2008, 05:10 PM
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can we cut and paste this example onto the cyber bulletin board for all posters to use as an example????????
Bro. Tenney says that there are always two ways to say the same thing to get two very different results. For instance, if you say to your wife, "Honey, when I look at you, time stands still" your wife will be putty in your hands. But, if you say, "Woman, you have a face that will stop a clock!" there is a VERY different result!
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Oh you are so correct!!!!!
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07-28-2008, 05:11 PM
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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Originally Posted by Sassy
Yes...some need to take eloquence 101....I agree!! We have to be very careful how we express, because no one can see our facial expressions and body language. That changes everything!!
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I have tried to help this by reminding people that when they are reading my posts they need to picture a fat middle aged guy with a very dry sense of humor!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-28-2008, 05:13 PM
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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Originally Posted by CC1
I have tried to help this by reminding people that when they are reading my posts they need to picture a fat middle aged guy with a very dry sense of humor!
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awww...that is really going to help me in the future. Thanks!!
I have a dry sense of humor too!! And I am not very witty like some of these people are. I just say it!
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07-28-2008, 05:14 PM
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Re: The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post
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Originally Posted by CC1
I agree. Many times I have come to the defense of LS by stating that I would trust him alone with my wife or daughter any day.
I have also stated that despite of the accusations that it is adornment I think RR's giant feathers are...er.....interesting.
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At least they don't glitter. LOL 
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