Can someone please clarify Resolution #3

Originally Posted by Revelationist

Sounds to me like if it's voted in, your agreeing that they tell you who you can be friends with and who you can't. Like the JW's....

Jerry Moon

Good thought.

You might call it ORGANIZATION. In this case, organized ostracism. Can you imagine what it would be like when leaders tell their followers who to ostracise

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I like politics, Dan and have roots in the fellowship... Why do we listen or watch on the news about the political on-goings of other countries ... we don't live there? Curiosity? Interest?

All of us on this forum either are in the fellowship or have some ties to it ... if we had ties to the PAW ... we'd talk about the PAW ...

Your answer was so soft it could turn away wrath........what's up with that? Can't I rile you up a bit????

I'm just poking at you buddy. I know of your roots........

[SDG]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

Your answer was so soft it could turn away wrath........what's up with that? Can't I rile you up a bit????

I'm just poking at you buddy. I know of your roots........

I figured I'd be tame ... as not to arise any suspicion among the ex-UPCIer bashers and haters.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

I just think they don't want hundreds of licensed ministers who are not active in ministry at all. I see it all the time. There are churches in the metro area not far from me with thirty plus licensed ministers doing absolutely nothing in ministry.

At that point, the license becomes nothing more than a club card and a badge of pride.

Why doesn't Home Missions snatch them up and plant churches?

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

I just think they don't want hundreds of licensed ministers who are not active in ministry at all. I see it all the time. There are churches in the metro area not far from me with thirty plus licensed ministers doing absolutely nothing in ministry.

At that point, the license becomes nothing more than a club card and a badge of pride.

Perhaps they were taught as I was that you are not suppose to ask for promotion, it will just come when the Lord is ready......

Or their Pastor likes having a large stable of ministers and will not try and get them to venture out into service.......

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Why doesn't Home Missions snatch them up and plant churches?

Would you want one of them to be your pastor?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

So it's like having a master list of undesirables ... gotcha. Information sharing.
...

I've heard of being on somebody's --------list.
Would this establish an official list of undesirables?
Would it be printed out, distributed, and updated periodically, or would it be maintained up-to-date online?

Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve

Hmmm, but the boards I know of like it that way. They like playing the pupetier holding the strings, making the person "under question" squirm and jump through hoops and other tricks while their future is uncertain.

I think I've read in enough places that this resolution is doubful to pass. No one wants big-brother to have this much power.

This gets my nomination for silly post of the day. Kudos to you for plumbing new depths!

Originally Posted by ChTatum

Guy,
You did say "accused" didn't you?

Do all accusations require repentance in your eyes?

Bro
I said there was "clearcut evidence" including the testimony of his illicit partner.
Here's the problem - once the man drops his card - he may have been caught on video in bed with a man - once he no longer has a card the investigation stops. He did not lose his card he turned it in.
Let me ask you, does that call for repentance?
I'm not talking about the guy who has a fight with a presbyter.

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by Guy

Bro
I said there was "clearcut evidence" including the testimony of his illicit partner.
Here's the problem - once the man drops his card - he may have been caught on video in bed with a man - once he no longer has a card the investigation stops. He did not lose his card he turned it in.
Let me ask you, does that call for repentance?
I'm not talking about the guy who has a fight with a presbyter.

It think what you are describing here is a man in sin...which would put him in the category of "unbecoming conduct" as opposed to "under question". Which is exactly why the resolution is being voted on....to clarify the categories of being put out and red flagged....

Most do not understand that being "under question" doesn't mean the minister is in moral sin..."unbecoming behavior" does.

At least I think that is what this resolution is trying to clear up.