Perhaps I need to clarify a bit what I meant when I mentioned those acts as I did in earlier post..and you and sism have replied with sincerity., as I have also asked.
THAT..when people do such things, even speaking in tongues or going into a "blessing" that often times looses even MORE of same conduct from others..I mean pretty soon the whole church is speaking in tongues, dancing, running the aisles..long hair flyin everywhere - and so on.
NO ONE seems to question that - or sometimes even MUSIC, certain songs just auto seem to loosen or lead to a sudden spurt in the SPIRIT fallling upon many people all at once!
Okay..so I've seen this many a time and I love it! ALSO I can fall into a personal blessing without all that..the spirit in ME often overflows easily.
But thats offtrack.
Having seen the spirit really fall heavily upon a whole congregation..who's to say what is or isn't "of GOD" or considered not bible..IF the fruit is there?
I hope I'm beginning to make some sense, lol (what I'm trying to get at)
When did an emotional reaction become 'fruit' or 'proof' of God's presence and/or blessing? If this is how you gauge whether something is of God, then you are on dangerous ground. See, in the Old Testament, even nasty king Saul prophesied with the sons of the prophets, but that was no sign of God's sanction on his life. Also, as somebody else has also mentioned, there are people who claim great emotional outbursts, "blessings", if you will, while worshipping a statue of patron saint, or reciting a pagan chant. By your measurement, these things must be of God because the 'fruit' is there.
The true measure of EVERYTHING is God's Word, plain and simple. So, if you can provide me with scripture that would support this fad of letting down some lady's uncut hair over a bunch of prayer requests, then we have a good discussion on hand.
Sort of like going from one Multi Level Marketing scheme to another...anyone do Melaleuca?
I absolutely love Melaluca! They carry the first soap that I could actually use on my face. Now that is a miracle! The average person is not going to buy this and isn't it funny that in every newsletter edition it's the same people on the pyramid. lol!
I know I will get crucified but the UPC is always chasing some fad. Dispatching angels now that is over, pleading the blood, some converted CIA man, convert from Hell's angels, the Siberean Seven, the Circus folks, the Jewish revival, now this goofy magic hair stuff.
Just sound solid Bible preaching does not seem to ever be the 'in' thing.
It's all about what draws the crowds and brings in the offerings, elder. I am sorry to say this, but I have seen so much of what you have referenced, and it has not profited the spiritual condition of the hearers one iota. Good sound solid Bible preaching is not desired by the carnal, nor is it preached by the carnal, for it requires obedience and sacrifice.
And the 'for this cause' portion isn't referring to hair either, but the relationship of a man and woman. Some quote that portion of 'for this cause'
as meaning 'why we have long hair'. That has nothing to do with that portion of scripture.
And as I said before, this is a white man's (or woman's) doctrine.
Now that's an awfully unkind racial remark, sister, and unbiblical, as well.
Okay, I was thinking about this and came up with a few questions.......
How long does a woman have to go with out cutting their hair before it gives them "powers"?
If this is true that the uncut hair causes miracles wouldn't be impossible for a woman with this long "miracle hair" on their heads to ever get sick?
Why hasn't anyone in the UPC addressed this? If they have who was it and what did they say?
Again, this portion of scripture is not talking about hair and the wrong definition is being used for power. The word "power" in verse 10 is interpreted, basically, in the Greek (exousia) as "privilege". It is not "dunamis", which in the Greek is interpreted as "specifically miraculous power".
My shampoo has it in it, but it's not made from the MML company and also my body soap has it too. I prefer to just get a bottle of the oil and use it for whatever I need though, like on toothpaste or whatever. But yeah, they are kinda expensive and they require you to buy a certain amount each month
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Again, this portion of scripture is not talking about hair and the wrong definition is being used for power. The word "power" in verse 10 is interpreted, basically, in the Greek (exousia) as "privilege". It is not "dunamis", which in the Greek is interpreted as "specifically miraculous power".
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