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Old 07-02-2007, 11:49 AM
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I know very few OP's who dont loathe trinitarians...
Loathing the doctrine is a far cry from loathing people who believe that doctrine.
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Old 07-02-2007, 11:54 AM
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Propaganda by TF Teney

Respected UPC leader T.F. Tenney, 63, a denominational superintendent in Louisiana, insists Oneness doctrine does not contradict the Bible.
"You can't call us 'Jesus only,' as some have. We do not deny the Father, the Son or the Holy Spirit," Tenney told Charisma. "We believe Jesus Christ is wholly, fully, absolutely and completely God. But no one is going to put us in the position of saying there are three Gods."

See this really undermines our view and it is an insult to Trinitarians. So I have to deduce something here
A) TF Tenney is an ignorant man. I know this is not true. So it is not A
B) TF Tenney does not understand what Trinitarians believe. I know this is not true. He is well learned in this area… So I cannot choose B
C) TF Tenney saw the opportunity to dig, and insult the Trinitarian view and he seized it
I am forced to choose “C”
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:02 PM
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I know very few OP's who dont loathe trinitarians...
The problem is that you classify yourself by the doctrine rather than just being a christian.Why would you call yourself trinitarian and not a christian? Why would you
call Brother Tenny an OP and say such a thing.I say you are stuck in a mindset rut.
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:32 PM
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The problem is that you classify yourself by the doctrine rather than just being a christian.Why would you call yourself trinitarian and not a christian? Why would you
call Brother Tenny an OP and say such a thing.I say you are stuck in a mindset rut.
sorry - do you call yourself oneness, how about apostolic?
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:42 PM
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sorry - do you call yourself oneness, how about apostolic?
Rather Oneness Apostolic NOT believing the Trinitarian Doctrine.

Same as 99% of the board.

BTW we don't allow tearing down of this doctrine....
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:44 PM
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Propaganda by TF Teney

Respected UPC leader T.F. Tenney, 63, a denominational superintendent in Louisiana, insists Oneness doctrine does not contradict the Bible.
"You can't call us 'Jesus only,' as some have. We do not deny the Father, the Son or the Holy Spirit," Tenney told Charisma. "We believe Jesus Christ is wholly, fully, absolutely and completely God. But no one is going to put us in the position of saying there are three Gods."

See this really undermines our view and it is an insult to Trinitarians. So I have to deduce something here
A) TF Tenney is an ignorant man. I know this is not true. So it is not A
B) TF Tenney does not understand what Trinitarians believe. I know this is not true. He is well learned in this area… So I cannot choose B
C) TF Tenney saw the opportunity to dig, and insult the Trinitarian view and he seized it
I am forced to choose “C”
Are those two sentences all that Tenney said? Did you ever consider these may have been taken out of context? And then you take two sentences and come up with three conclusions. Tenney is either ignorant, doesn't underdstand what a Trinitarian believes, and he is desparate to insult Trintitarians in any way possible so as to alienate them and not try to win them to his view. You must think Tenney is a very stupid man as well.
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:46 PM
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Sola,

Please respond to this post. I can testify it is the doctrine I loathe because I believe it is a lie.

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I know very few OP's who dont loathe trinitarians...
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Loathing the doctrine is a far cry from loathing people who believe that doctrine.
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:55 PM
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Respected UPC leader T.F. Tenney, 63, a denominational superintendent in Louisiana, insists Oneness doctrine does not contradict the Bible. "You can't call us 'Jesus only,' as some have. We do not deny the Father, the Son or the Holy Spirit," Tenney told Charisma. "We believe Jesus Christ is wholly, fully, absolutely and completely God. But no one is going to put us in the position of saying there are three Gods."
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Are those two sentences all that Tenney said? Did you ever consider these may have been taken out of context? And then you take two sentences and come up with three conclusions. Tenney is either ignorant, doesn't underdstand what a Trinitarian believes, and he is desparate to insult Trintitarians in any way possible so as to alienate them and not try to win them to his view. You must think Tenney is a very stupid man as well.
That's what I was thinking . . . especially if written by J. Lee Grady.
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Old 07-02-2007, 01:32 PM
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You still have not shown that holiness includes following your idea of a dress code, Bro Price. The reason being you can't. It's just your perception, and other's, of what holiness is. Frankly, I think y'all have cheapened the meaning of holiness with so much focus being placed on what people wear.
Rico~ How can one give proof when there is none to back it up! Like many things in this life man will try to find a loop hole to get into Heaven , other then through Gods perfect Agape and Grace (Jesus)! The fact is they don't trust God! They seek after a sign, a dress one...Sad really~
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Old 07-02-2007, 01:38 PM
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Perhaps you had a problem with my reuse of his words of attack in my defense.
Actually, I thought it was cute. The fact still remains that certain aspects of the apostolic church have made dress standards the test for measuring holiness, as if holiness could ever be measured in the first place. Holiness is a state of being, not a state of dress, Brother. I am sure you already know that though. What gives you, as a preacher, the right to define modesty for me or my wife? It, modesty, is an issue between me and God, period. If your conscience won't allow you to wear short sleeves then so be it. Knock yourself out. But why should I be obligated to obey your conscience when my conscience finds nothing wrong with short sleeves. If you don't wear short sleeves unto the Lord and I have no problem with short sleeves unto the Lord, then aren't we both serving God with all our hearts? BTW, I have no idea where you stand on short sleeves. I am just using it as an example.
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