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Old 05-28-2007, 11:17 PM
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Ashley's walk with God would put some UPC young people to shame and it's sad that most would look at her as being lost.
Well, she had a couple scary years, but she is in an awesome place with God since she finally grew up. She amazes me sometimes with the dreams and goals she has for the Kingdom; puts me to shame actually. She definitely wants to travel the world for Him.
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:23 PM
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Sometimes the only "right" thing to do is pray and love and keep our mouths shut...sometimes I fail but I sure keep trying. I am from the old school of thought and can be tremendously blessed singing, I'll fly away...my son finds it quite boring. I don't even get half the words of the songs that sends him into spiritual orbit!
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:25 PM
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Sometimes the only "right" thing to do is pray and love and keep our mouths shut...sometimes I fail but I sure keep trying. I am from the old school of thought and can be tremendously blessed singing, I'll fly away...my son finds it quite boring. I don't even get half the words of the songs that sends him into spiritual orbit!
It seems very little of that ever gets done though...oh there might be prayer but the shutting the mouth part is hard for some to do
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:33 PM
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We can live what we believe even among people that differ from us. If we were all alike how could we learn from one another? I have learned so much from people that were extremly opposite from me.

Sherri has no power over her grown kids...

One of mine just got him a motorcycle. I sure didn't want him to get one and go into debt and neither did Brother Alvear but he is grown, and in church. Kinda that age to impress the girls (22) so I will just have to let him grow up some more. Not that I think it is a sin but they are VERY dangerous here and easily to get stole or killed over...

At 22 I had built 3 churches! He had rather live at home, play the guitar and sing and work in the office. At 22 my oldest son already pastored a church and some house meetings...so our kids are different. We must love them and encourage them.
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:35 PM
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Yes, it is hard to hold our tongue. My husband has that virture. I have to practice it...However some of the things kids do at certain ages they live long enough to see how inmature their actions were.
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:57 PM
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Sister Sherri,
I found this in research:


Before it became the monogram of Christ, the chi rho was the monogram of Chronos, the god of time, and an emblem of several solar deities.

The Chi-ro is also the origin of the tradition of abbreviating "Christ" in "christian" or "Christmas" to "X."

In Hebrew, Chi-Rho equates to Tav-Resh. The chi rho was used in hermetic alchemical texts to denote time.
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Old 05-29-2007, 12:39 AM
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Tattoos are about sex now????
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Old 05-29-2007, 12:49 AM
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Sherri,

Ashley's walk with God would put most UPC young people to shame and it's sad that most would look at her as being lost.
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I agree with this to a certain extent. My daughter vaguely remembers being in UPC, but not much. My son doesn't even ever remember it and only knows of it through his cousins. They don't consider it their heritage; it is their parent's heritage. To them, UPC means nothing.

Their heritage is what we have taught them, which is primarily balance in all things. We teach them to live holy and pleasing unto God. I will obviously not always agree with their interpretation of what is right or wrong, but that is between them and their Lord. They are adults now. BUT, they are good young people who love God with all their hearts and I trust them to work out their own salvation with fear and trembling. They have seen us live a balanced lifestyle and know that we do not adhere to the "greasy grace" principles. My kids are some of the most REAL people in the world. There is no facade with them; you know exactly where they stand on all things and that I respect. I have seen too much of the other.

They would not tell you that smoking or drinking (in moderation), gambling, etc. will send you to hell, and neither would I. But we don't do it because we feel that those things would be weights and not good witnesses. We have taught them that you have to consider others, not just yourselves. As for the tattoos, they don't see anything Biblically wrong with them, and I have no arguments against them through the Word of God. I just personally don't like them.
Balance can be just another word for "failing to take a stand..."

This whole attitude, "Well, we did our best, and they are adults, now, and, we can only hope, and, we tried to show them a balance, and, so forth and so on..." yeeecccch!

So tatoos are kinda okay now...poor Larry Boy and the shelacking he got for tatoos and piercings.

Does anyone believe that what we do here in the physical realm is boundlessly connected to the spiritual world??? Billy Graham's dedication and efforts to push false doctrine would out pace many people in the UPC today...does HE get an A for effort and slide into heaven???

Give me a break...
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Old 05-29-2007, 08:52 AM
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Give me a break...
How long would you like? I am sure someone could accommodate that for you.
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Old 05-29-2007, 09:01 AM
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How long would you like? I am sure someone could accommodate that for you.
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