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09-22-2010, 03:05 PM
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Re: UPCI pastor resigns amid teen sex charges
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No, of course not. You have to tie in the fact that these were adult, authority figures that we're dealing with that these girls were having sex with.
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I agree. Maybe this was the wrong thread for the problem I am stating here. But as I told Mrs Bratt, it still applies to some of these situations.
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09-22-2010, 03:08 PM
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Re: UPCI pastor resigns amid teen sex charges
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I agree. Maybe this was the wrong thread for the problem I am stating here. But as I told Mrs Bratt, it still applies to some of these situations.
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I think it was the wrong thread.
A topic like "Girls are having sex willingly at younger and younger ages" I would agree with. And a question like "why is this so?" I could chime in on.
But girls having sex with adult, authority figures is a different topic altogether. I do not find them at fault in that case.
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09-22-2010, 03:08 PM
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Re: UPCI pastor resigns amid teen sex charges
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Everyones opinion is bias.
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I disagree. Thats why I can argue both sides of this issue.
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You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
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09-22-2010, 03:10 PM
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Re: UPCI pastor resigns amid teen sex charges
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I disagree. Thats why I can argue both sides of this issue.
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I bow to your superiority (tongue in cheek).
It is ridiculous to say that your opinion is unbiased when you just told your whole story out here for all to see.
My opinion is educated probably more than bias. But I am not going to argue the point.
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09-22-2010, 03:13 PM
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Re: UPCI pastor resigns amid teen sex charges
In defense of most 16 year old girls that fantasize or want to have sex. The reality is MUCH different than what they expect. And for some the damage is done, and they are in for a tough life. Others through the grace of God, and sometimes counseling can have a "normal" life.
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09-22-2010, 03:14 PM
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Re: UPCI pastor resigns amid teen sex charges
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I think it was the wrong thread.
A topic like "Girls are having sex willingly at younger and younger ages" I would agree with. And a question like "why is this so?" I could chime in on.
But girls having sex with adult, authority figures is a different topic altogether. I do not find them at fault in that case.
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I don't think he even means they are "at fault" - just saying that they are more willing at younger and younger ages to have sex with adult, authority figures.
Your statement would mean that girls are willing to have sex at younger and younger ages with only guys their age - - and I don't think that's true.
FTR - - this guy is WRONG and totally at FAULT. Being her pastor and so much older than her makes him a perv.
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09-22-2010, 03:15 PM
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Re: UPCI pastor resigns amid teen sex charges
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In defense of most 16 year old girls that fantasize or want to have sex. The reality is MUCH different than what they expect. And for some the damage is done, and they are in for a tough life. Others through the grace of God, and sometimes counseling can have a "normal" life.
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Well, that could be true of adult women.........lol - - just saying.
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09-22-2010, 03:18 PM
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Re: UPCI pastor resigns amid teen sex charges
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I bow to your superiority (tongue in cheek).
It is ridiculous to say that your opinion is unbiased when you just told your whole story out here for all to see.
My opinion is educated probably more than bias. But I am not going to argue the point.
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I think you are being a littl tough on scotty - - I'm sure there is a LOT more that he could share to shed light, but he has refrained. I can't tell him he's wrong - - it WAS his experience.
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09-22-2010, 03:24 PM
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Re: UPCI pastor resigns amid teen sex charges
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I think you are being a littl tough on scotty - - I'm sure there is a LOT more that he could share to shed light, but he has refrained. I can't tell him he's wrong - - it WAS his experience.
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Your very perceptive, for an admin.
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You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
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09-22-2010, 03:25 PM
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Re: UPCI pastor resigns amid teen sex charges
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I think you are being a littl tough on scotty - - I'm sure there is a LOT more that he could share to shed light, but he has refrained. I can't tell him he's wrong - - it WAS his experience.
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My main concern is how he talks about his daughter.....I'm afraid that attitude may leak over into his conversations with her more than he realizes. And if his relationships with his daughters are strained....he should take a look.
I am going to cut out now!
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