"death panels" obamacare

[coadie]

Tired of the political migraines it’s getting from this, the Finance Committee finally decides to, er, pull the plug:
“On the Finance Committee, we are working very hard to avoid unintended consequences by methodically working through the complexities of all of these issues and policy options,” Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) said in a statement. “We dropped end-of-life provisions from consideration entirely because of the way they could be misinterpreted and implemented incorrectly.”…“The bill passed by the House committees is so poorly cobbled together that it will have all kinds of unintended consequences, including making taxpayers fund healthcare subsidies for illegal immigrants,” Grassley said. The veteran Iowa lawmaker said the end-of-life provision in those bills would pay physicians to “advise patients about end-of-life care and rate physician quality of care based on the creation of and adherence to orders for end-of-life care.


So they are taking the "end of Life" or "death panel" provisions out.

Because of exposure and opposition. This is what happens when normal people read these bills.

[coadie]

Death Panel Bus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESlJG...layer_embedded

[coadie]

Originally Posted by coadie

Death Panel Bus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESlJG...layer_embedded

WASHINGTON, D.C., August 17, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The US Senate has sounded a hasty retreat on "death panels" in health-care reform by striking out the provision on "end-of-life counseling" from the bill.

Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), announced last week that the Senate Finance Committee has now expunged all "end-of-life" provisions from the Senate version of health-care reform in order "to avoid unintended consequences."

Grassley admitted in a statement Wednesday that the storm of controversy surrounding the "end-of-life" provisions in detailed in section 1233 of the House version (H.R. 3200) expressed legitimate concerns that the elderly and infirm could end up pressured into lower-quality care or none at all.

"We dropped end-of-life provisions from consideration entirely," said Grassley, "because of the way they could be misinterpreted and implemented incorrectly."

That is nice to know the end of life provisions are removed. Twisp said they weren't in there.

[coadie]

Rules for radicals.

Deny the concept of "death panel" in it's entirety

Manipulate the target to voLunteer and come forward as if it is the patients' idea to end it:

When the government can steer vulnerable individuals to conclude for themselves that life is not worth living, who needs a death panel?

Plant the seeds when the opportunity is there:

The circumstances listed include ones common among the elderly and disabled: living in a nursing home, being in a wheelchair and not being able to “shake the blues.” There is a section which provocatively asks, “Have you ever heard anyone say, ‘If I’m a vegetable, pull the plug’?” There also are guilt-inducing scenarios such as “I can no longer contribute to my family’s well being,” “I am a severe financial burden on my family” and that the vet’s situation “causes severe emotional burden for my family

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Well, the VA has instructed its physicians to deliver this end-of-life counseling to all of its patients

When the Bush administration finally reviewed “Your Life, Your Choices,” it suspended its use within the VA system. For some reason, the Obama administration and Shinseki have reinstated the booklet this year. The directive reinstituting the booklet was issued last month.

That would mean Obama administration

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http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/2...-to-treatment/

[coadie]

http://www.rihlp.org/pubs/Your_life_your_choices.pdf

Read the 'death book"

Obama wants to help you move on. The Death Panel hereinafter named "Advanced care Planning associate" will help ya.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by coadie

http://www.rihlp.org/pubs/Your_life_your_choices.pdf

Read the 'death book"

Obama wants to help you move on. The Death Panel hereinafter named "Advanced care Planning associate" will help ya.

Some other news sources now cover the death book. When do they bring out the liberal spin?

[coadie]

UPDATE: Obama's VA pulls so-called 'Death Book' from its website.
The Washington Examiner adds:

We were supposed to be beyond any debate over "death panels" when it comes to health care reform. But now the administration is scrambling to explain whether and why it has been referring physicians to use a document for end-of-life planning that strongly hints at the worthlessness of life when its quality is diminished by even relatively minor injuries and health problems, such as being wheelchair-bound.

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CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) - At least 1,200 veterans across the country have been mistakenly told by the Veterans Administration that they suffer from a fatal neurological disease.

One of the leaders of a Gulf War veterans group says panicked veterans from Alabama, Florida, Kansas, North Carolina, West Virginia and Wyoming have contacted the group about the error.

Denise Nichols, the vice president of the National Gulf War Resource Center, says the VA is blaming a coding error for the mistake.

Oopps. Form letters? Home office healthcare? People with common sense will run from the federal healthcare power grab.
You are just a number and just a code.

[Light]

I wonder why the right wing never addressed the death panel issue while Bush was in office. It turns out there is a provision in the VA's rules covering ending a services man's life. It is true also that the so called death panel was in the Medicare bill while Bush was in office.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Light

I wonder why the right wing never addressed the death panel issue while Bush was in office. It turns out there is a provision in the VA's rules covering ending a services man's life. It is true also that the so called death panel was in the Medicare bill while Bush was in office.

President had the death book removed from the VA. Obama brings the Death book back.



The notifications went out in a letter intending to inform ALS sufferers about the benefits available to them through the VA. At that time, one of those benefits was end-of-life counseling and access to “Your Life, Your Choices,” the booklet that refers veterans to the Hemlock Society when they feel life is no longer worth living. I wonder how many of these veterans were given the booklet?
By the way, that booklet has been removed from at least a portion of the VA website, according to David Freddoso:


http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/2...ying-from-als/


ALS is one of the worst ways to die. So should the vets be told they were going to die?