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07-20-2009, 10:54 AM
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Re: Supreme Court to Hear Case on Obama
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Twisp, you need to bow out....the more Coadie talks the more your arguments looks foolish
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I agree, it is foolish to discuss something with someone that cannot produce facts, but hey, work is slow and I am bored. Out of curiosity, how do my factual replies seem more foolish?
Besides that, I do not think that coadie is a true believer. I think he is more of a troll, an Obama supporter with an alt screen name.
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07-20-2009, 11:30 AM
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Re: Supreme Court to Hear Case on Obama
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I agree, it is foolish to discuss something with someone that cannot produce facts, but hey, work is slow and I am bored. Out of curiosity, how do my factual replies seem more foolish?
Besides that, I do not think that coadie is a true believer. I think he is more of a troll, an Obama supporter with an alt screen name.
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You use snopes who is foolish to support your arguments.
True believer??
In what? Is there a scripture verse that tellls Troo believers to vote for the abortion of unborn babies?
41And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:
This is where when I teach home bible studies, I demonstrate my divergence from veiws held by dems. They say "it's not a baby" and support abortion.
John the Baptist was a baby and was filled with the Holy Ghost from birth.
actually the pro abort Herod asked for the abortion of boys as predicted in the OT and Ramah crying out for her child who "was not" aborted by the state.
"Factual"
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07-20-2009, 11:36 AM
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Re: Supreme Court to Hear Case on Obama
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You use snopes who is foolish to support your arguments.
True believer??
In what? Is there a scripture verse that tellls Troo believers to vote for the abortion of unborn babies?
41And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:
This is where when I teach home bible studies, I demonstrate my divergence from veiws held by dems. They say "it's not a baby" and support abortion.
John the Baptist was a baby and was filled with the Holy Ghost from birth.
actually the pro abort Herod asked for the abortion of boys as predicted in the OT and Ramah crying out for her child who "was not" aborted by the state.
"Factual"
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I have used several difference sources, from Snopes to legal documents to actual newspaper articles. You have not used any sources, merely editorials. lol.
I think you know what I meant by true believer.
All of our conversations, all of the lawsuits, all of the editorials, could be avoided if you birthers had one thing: proof.
You do not, thus you spread misinformation. It was like this before the election, I am sure it will be like this for his next term also. And the rest of us will lump you guys with the other left field conspiracy groups.
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07-20-2009, 12:39 PM
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Re: Supreme Court to Hear Case on Obama
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Originally Posted by Twisp
I agree, it is foolish to discuss something with someone that cannot produce facts, but hey, work is slow and I am bored. Out of curiosity, how do my factual replies seem more foolish?
Besides that, I do not think that coadie is a true believer. I think he is more of a troll, an Obama supporter with an alt screen name.
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Although I am not neutral on this, looking at it from a neutral position you have given arguments and have used references to support your arguments.
The opposing side, especially Coadie, has used arguments and has used references to support his arguments.
The things that you have called "facts" which is only references to support your argument, are called into question as being legitimate, which is a legitimate argument just as your assertion that the reference points that coadie has presented are not accurate -- a legitimate argument.
However, from a neutral position looking at the two (although I am not neutral) the basis, background, extent of coadie's arguments has far more validity that he knows what he is talking about verses someone who is just supporting a position.
That's my take anyway
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07-20-2009, 12:54 PM
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Re: Supreme Court to Hear Case on Obama
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Originally Posted by gloryseeker
Although I am not neutral on this, looking at it from a neutral position you have given arguments and have used references to support your arguments.
The opposing side, especially Coadie, has used arguments and has used references to support his arguments.
The things that you have called "facts" which is only references to support your argument, are called into question as being legitimate, which is a legitimate argument just as your assertion that the reference points that coadie has presented are not accurate -- a legitimate argument.
However, from a neutral position looking at the two (although I am not neutral) the basis, background, extent of coadie's arguments has far more validity that he knows what he is talking about verses someone who is just supporting a position.
That's my take anyway
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So you say we both have references that we call facts, yet coadie's arguments have far more validity? lol.
Coadie has shown scant few, if any, sources. Everything he has said has been refuted from outside sources:
Obama's birth certificate does have an embossed seal and signature.
People do recall Obama's birth in Hawaii.
There is not proof of him being a citizen of Indonesia.
American's were able to travel legally to Pakistan in 1981.
Obama was born in Hawaii, so his parent's citizenship has no bearing on his own.
The transcript of his grandmother's interview has no mention of him being born in Kenya.
If you look through my posts, I have provided links to credible news sites, newspaper sites, and other sites that back up what the majority of America, including the court system, believes.
Coadie has been asked several time to provide sources for his accusations. He rarely does.
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07-20-2009, 01:49 PM
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Re: Supreme Court to Hear Case on Obama
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So you say we both have references that we call facts, yet coadie's arguments have far more validity? lol.
Coadie has shown scant few, if any, sources. Everything he has said has been refuted from outside sources:
Obama's birth certificate does have an embossed seal and signature.
People do recall Obama's birth in Hawaii.
There is not proof of him being a citizen of Indonesia.
American's were able to travel legally to Pakistan in 1981.
Obama was born in Hawaii, so his parent's citizenship has no bearing on his own.
The transcript of his grandmother's interview has no mention of him being born in Kenya.
If you look through my posts, I have provided links to credible news sites, newspaper sites, and other sites that back up what the majority of America, including the court system, believes.
Coadie has been asked several time to provide sources for his accusations. He rarely does.
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Have you figured out how to explain he went to school in a foreign country that allowed ONLY citizens to attend?
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07-20-2009, 02:20 PM
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Re: Supreme Court to Hear Case on Obama
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Have you figured out how to explain he went to school in a foreign country that allowed ONLY citizens to attend?
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What school is that, and how do we know it only allowed Indonesian citizens?
Apparently, you have not figured out how to explain it either since you didn't name the school or time periods he attended, or provided links proving he was an Indonesian citizen.
There are very few specifics online about the Muslim or Catholic schools he attended while in Indonesia, and there are less specifics on their acceptance policies.
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07-20-2009, 03:21 PM
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Re: Supreme Court to Hear Case on Obama
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Originally Posted by gloryseeker
Although I am not neutral on this, looking at it from a neutral position you have given arguments and have used references to support your arguments.
The opposing side, especially Coadie, has used arguments and has used references to support his arguments.
The things that you have called "facts" which is only references to support your argument, are called into question as being legitimate, which is a legitimate argument just as your assertion that the reference points that coadie has presented are not accurate -- a legitimate argument.
However, from a neutral position looking at the two (although I am not neutral) the basis, background, extent of coadie's arguments has far more validity that he knows what he is talking about verses someone who is just supporting a position.
That's my take anyway
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Twusp claims I am not a "true believer" by reason of not believeing The One. The holy one of Chicago?
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07-20-2009, 03:36 PM
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Re: Supreme Court to Hear Case on Obama
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Twusp claims I am not a "true believer" by reason of not believeing The One. The holy one of Chicago?
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Lol, I never claimed that. If you are going to outright tell a falsehood, at least don't do it where proving you wrong only takes a few scrolls of the page up. I said:
Besides that, I do not think that coadie is a true believer. I think he is more of a troll, an Obama supporter with an alt screen name.
I think any reasonable reader can infer what I meant by that.
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07-20-2009, 03:37 PM
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Re: Supreme Court to Hear Case on Obama
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Have you figured out how to explain he went to school in a foreign country that allowed ONLY citizens to attend?
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They are spinning excuses on the school documents that name him as barry soetero.
Citizenship is Indonesian.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...the_cpusa.html
Obama's political approach is also in perfect harmony with that of the CPUSA's. The method is gradualism. Overall, Obama is doing pretty well at achieving CPUSA's goals under the current political circumstances. The Left should not expect immediate and radical changes. And of all things, the Left should not "define the current struggle as one that arrays the people against President Obama. That's not Marxism; it's plain stupid."
Thot I would share some flattering remarks for the communist party Usa.
Obama was raised by a commie. Frank marshal Davis. In his book he calls him father. Frank Marshall Davis admits in his book to molesting a 13 year old girl with his wife in attendence.
Did the birth certificate show up? He found one in his mom's stuff in 1995 i believe. The one on the web was from 2007. They can't both be original.
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