Gender Blending: Is it Wrong?

[jaxfam6]

Originally Posted by Sherri

And just when I thought I had heard it all..............

Pardon my language would you all? I was preached at for dressing like a "upc fag" on more than one occasion.

i wore my hair parted in the middle and got preached at
i wore a red hankerchief in my breast pocket and got preached at
i wore elastic waisted pants to the store and got preached at because the preacher saw me.
that was all before i was even an adult

now days i get preached at for my beard, my tv, my wedding band, and just about anything else you can think of. but only when i visit certain churches.

[jaxfam6]

and yes that was the words he used across the pulpit in his message

[theoldpaths]

Originally Posted by ForeverBlessed

Pants have long been acceptable attire for both men/womten in our society.. and as Newman used to say "pants are even worn by the little old ladies at the nursing home" That statement hits so close to home lately since my mother (in a nursing home) walks around in little duster dresses everyday. I was asked by nurses if she had any pants to keep her nlegs warm and protected... I just answered that I would discuss it with her POA, but it probably wouldn't change...

See this is not true. In North America, before WW 1 or 2 can't remember which, women only wore dresses. I drive bus picking up old people to take to a day program and then in the afternoon take them home. One lady I had a talk with remembers when women used to all wear dresses and that the change happened after the war (1 or 2 I can't remember which).

Apparently, because most men were in the war, the women had to leave their houses and come work in the factories to help the war effort. Because dresses could get caught in the machinery, they made them wear pants.

After the war, women liked the idea of making money and not being solely dependent upon their husbands as being the provider, liked working, and apparently liked wearing pants. Fashion companies got on the band wagon, and behold the seeds for the Woman's Liberation movement were born and some woman have been wearing pants ever since.

The world changes, cultures change, but the word of God remains solid and stable and is immune to the changing whims of society. Thank God for his unchanging Word that we can stand on regardless of what the world and society does. And thank God for men of God who teach us and give us understanding concerning certain issues so that knowledge, understanding, and wisdom can be passed down to the next generation.

God bless.

[theoldpaths]

Originally Posted by jaxfam6

Pardon my language would you all? I was preached at for dressing like a "upc fag" on more than one occasion.

i wore my hair parted in the middle and got preached at
i wore a red hankerchief in my breast pocket and got preached at
i wore elastic waisted pants to the store and got preached at because the preacher saw me.
that was all before i was even an adult

now days i get preached at for my beard, my tv, my wedding band, and just about anything else you can think of. but only when i visit certain churches.

Weddingband is interesting. I was taught that the history of the wedding ring came from the Catholic Pope Innocent III in the thirteenth century. Kinda makes you wonder how Christians/Apostolics ever got by without wearing one for almost 12-13 centuries?

[jaxfam6]

Originally Posted by theoldpaths

Weddingband is interesting. I was taught that the history of the wedding ring came from the Catholic Pope Innocent III in the thirteenth century. Kinda makes you wonder how Christians/Apostolics ever got by without wearing one for almost 12-13 centuries?

Many still wore rings and jewels of all sorts.
Bible is full of it. Why would God make them and tell us not to wear them?

He you all go, see these pretty stones here and this shiny stuff here? well I made it so that I could send you to hell for wearing it.

Yeah God, great thanks.

The wearing of anything that is beyond your means is stupid. The wearing of anything that symbolizes worship to a god other than the one true God is wrong. Other than that GO FOR IT.

[theoldpaths]

Originally Posted by jaxfam6

Many still wore rings and jewels of all sorts.
Bible is full of it. Why would God make them and tell us not to wear them?

He you all go, see these pretty stones here and this shiny stuff here? well I made it so that I could send you to hell for wearing it.

Yeah God, great thanks.

The wearing of anything that is beyond your means is stupid. The wearing of anything that symbolizes worship to a god other than the one true God is wrong. Other than that GO FOR IT.

Are you suggesting we take scriptures like the following...

1Ti 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

1Pe 3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;

And make it of none effect?

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by theoldpaths

Are you suggesting we take scriptures like the following...

1Ti 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

1Pe 3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;

And make it of none effect?

If you use this verse, then you would have to say that you cannot wear apparel either. Be consistent. The whole thing is about balance and modesty.

[theoldpaths]

Originally Posted by Sherri

If you use this verse, then you would have to say that you cannot wear apparel either. Be consistent. The whole thing is about balance and modesty.

I agree that 1 Peter 3 is comparing the outward adorning to the inward adorning.

1Pe 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
1Pe 3:2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.
1Pe 3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
1Pe 3:4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
1Pe 3:5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:
1Pe 3:6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.

However, this does not take away from the fact that Paul, inspired of God wrote the following...

1Ti 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

1 Peter 3 does NOT negate 1 Ti 2:9 and vice-versa. A woman can still adorn themselves with a meek and quiet spirit, in subjection to her disobedient husband, and win him by her conversation (lifestyle); and at the same time, adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array.

Being obedient to all the word is better and safer than relying on the wisdom of men.

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by theoldpaths

I agree that 1 Peter 3 is comparing the outward adorning to the inward adorning.

1Pe 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
1Pe 3:2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.
1Pe 3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
1Pe 3:4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
1Pe 3:5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:
1Pe 3:6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.

However, this does not take away from the fact that Paul, inspired of God wrote the following...

1Ti 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

1 Peter 3 does NOT negate 1 Ti 2:9 and vice-versa. A woman can still adorn themselves with a meek and quiet spirit, in subjection to her disobedient husband, and win him by her conversation (lifestyle); and at the same time, adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array.

Being obedient to all the word is better and safer than relying on the wisdom of men.

Do you believe a woman shouldn't braid her hair? I know lots of people that would be in trouble with that one.

[theoldpaths]

Originally Posted by Sherri

Do you believe a woman shouldn't braid her hair? I know lots of people that would be in trouble with that one.

From what I've heard back then they use to braid into their hair gold, silver, etc. That would make more sense than forbidding to braid a lady's hair for no apparent reason.