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Old 02-25-2008, 03:50 PM
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If the Democrats win it is only because of the Republicans failure to lead for the common good.
Look everybody, Chris can copy and paste from moveon.org!

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Old 02-25-2008, 03:55 PM
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How many bills from the Republican Congress did President Bush veto?

It’s evident that the fascist/neo-con Republicans “rule” not govern.
How do you group neo-cons w/ the fascists? Do you know what neo-con refers to?
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Bush didn’t see a Republican bill he didn’t love. He didn’t use veto, even when it would have been good for our country. It’s a symptom of fascist one party rule. Many real Republicans are not patrician hacks, and they’re willing to admit that the Republican party has gone down the road of fascism and extremism. Anyone with a lick of sense can see this.



One party rule without challenge, that’s not “government”…that’s rulership. The President is the nation’s chief executive…Bush used it as a fast track to pass every Republican initiative into law even when it was bad for the American people. They say power corrupts…and the one party rule provided near absolute power and has rendered the current leadership of the Republican party absolutely corrupt.

Fascist one party rule is what the Republicans have given us and wish to build upon in the coming years. They’d make it illegal to be a Democrat if they could. They have a vile fascist globalist agenda. Their real constituents are massive globalized corporations that aim to put the common man out of business until they have aggregated all wealth into their sphere and advance into a fascist world government. The Republican goal is redistribution of wealth…distributing it from the public trust and free market into the massive global corporate conglomerates.

Chris, please stop with the goofy stuff. you are embarrassing yourself!

Dude, please! Republicans dealt with a Democratic filibuster in the Senate. NO law was passed that the Dems didn't agree to prevent from passing!

much of the legislation that did pass, that Bush did sign was supported by a number of democrats.

Are you going to say the same thing if Obama wins and the Dems pick up seats in both houses of congress? will the Dems all the sudden be Fascists???

what hypocrisy! but then again, hypocrisy seems to be the name of the game with you.
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How do you group neo-cons w/ the fascists? Do you know what neo-con refers to?
Bro, Chirs reads Moveon.org and just starts regurgitating.

he cant help it.
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On that subject, you might end up hating me more than our friend here.


I believe we should do absolutly nothing about the illegals in the country.

yup. thats right. nothing. Dont kick them out, dont give them a path to citizenship, dont make them legal.

Now, I do believe we need to lock down the southern boarder then rationalize immagration (read increase the legal number allowed to meet demand which is almost double the current allotment)

back to the story. why do nothing? because Illegal immagrants have a very important function in the American Economy. the hold down wage inflation.

by keeping wage inflation in check, we keep real inflation in check.
I agree that illegals affect wage inflation ... but a lot needs to be done to legalize them in one fashion or the other. Lock down the borders ... indeed
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Bush didn’t see a Republican bill he didn’t love. He didn’t use veto, even when it would have been good for our country. It’s a symptom of fascist one party rule. Many real Republicans are not patrician hacks, and they’re willing to admit that the Republican party has gone down the road of fascism and extremism. Anyone with a lick of sense can see this.



One party rule without challenge, that’s not “government”…that’s rulership. The President is the nation’s chief executive…Bush used it as a fast track to pass every Republican initiative into law even when it was bad for the American people. They say power corrupts…and the one party rule provided near absolute power and has rendered the current leadership of the Republican party absolutely corrupt.

Fascist one party rule is what the Republicans have given us and wish to build upon in the coming years. They’d make it illegal to be a Democrat if they could. They have a vile fascist globalist agenda. Their real constituents are massive globalized corporations that aim to put the common man out of business until they have aggregated all wealth into their sphere and advance into a fascist world government. The Republican goal is redistribution of wealth…distributing it from the public trust and free market into the massive global corporate conglomerates.
Thank God we are far from being a fascist state and/or communist ...

To pin how some corporations have bilked America on the Republicans only is irresponisble and inaccurate ...

Last I look the bi-cameral legislative body in our nation has consisted of both parties ... w/ the Republicans have a relatively short-lived majority in the last decades. The pillaging has been going on for decades.
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Careful, CC1 is gonna turn you into ICE because you have admitted to knowing illegals without reporting them.

so, going a step further, I didnt say my belief was very nice. It is rather harsh.

but lets back up a second and create some definitions.

First of all, there is no such thing as an "Illegal Citizen" by definition, their status as "Illegal" prevents them from being "Citizens"

and here is where I go old school harsh.

I had an old boss who once told me what his dad would tell him when he was a teen and got into trouble.

If you are going to be stupid you better be tuff.

People who are here illegal, must accept certain risks. it is the nature of the decision they made.
Ferd, I believe human beings have human rights by virtue of being human beings, not on the basis of any “citizenship”. Obviously the fascist Republican machine has convinced you that it is the state that issues human rights and value. Now you reveal your statist fascism. We cannot deprive human beings of human rights based on how the “state” views them. Again, you’re being part of mankind’s problems not part of the solution.

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As for as the national security risks. The real reason for closing the southern boarder is the NS risk. those that are here now will not magically decide to get documented because Congress passes some legislation to legalize the illegals. what a silly notion.
The more we bring into legal compliance and citizenship the less there will be to track below the radar thus improving our security.

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wreckless? not really. but your theory is flawed on several levels.
first you want a nanny state that will even take care of those who thwart our laws.
No. I believe they should have to pay at least one year’s back taxes and a fine, in addition to following a track to citizenship.

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Second you think terrorists that are already here will somehow magically get caught because we legalize the illegals!

crazy.
No. Illegals that mean us no harm will become citizens. Those who are desiring to fly under the radar will be fewer and our measures to track them will be more successful.

It’s common sense.
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DT, if the poor fellow would just read some of what I've written here, he might learn a thing or two.

I've layed down a pretty solid edumaction today, if I do say so myself.
Not, Ferd ... you simply tried to disassociate the party from the fascist tag. Both Fascism and communism are not uniquely American ... both models are for the most part European in character ... but ideals have been espoused by many living here for decades ...

McCarthyism ring a bell?

I don't fear labels ... sometimes they are just that ... and sometimes their is a figment of truth in them.
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Look everybody, Chris can copy and paste from moveon.org!

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Playing to the audience, Ferdinand?
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Look everybody, Chris can copy and paste from moveon.org!

LOL!
So evidently Ferd doesn't believe that leaders should lead according to the common good? Again he reveals his neo-conservative elitist views. Now the question is....who's good does Ferd prefer government officials work toward? The answer....the good of the globalist corporate elite that run the Republican Party.
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