WPF in talks with Philippines UPC

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by NLYP

WWF!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLL
Sis...love your heart....coming from you...THAT was priceless....

you mean wpf....

wwf is the world wrestling federation....

Come to think of it.....you may be on to something.

[Sunni]

Originally Posted by Apprehended

Am I mistaken?

Yes.




But please....continue speculating the theories and motives you have created from false information...

[NW Pastor]

Originally Posted by Sunni

Yes.




But please....continue speculating the theories and motives you have created from false information...

Which information was false? WPF ministers going to the Philippines? They are working among established UPCI churches? They are not or soon will not be a part of the UPCI?

If the WPF wants to evangelize the world, I applaud them vigorously. But if they want a "quick" established missions program for showcase purposes, one built by others under the auspices of the UPCI its missionaries and nationals, then that is a mistake.

By the way, if you want to talk about false information, read the Apostolic World Report interview of SB in the last issue.

@ NW Pastor - Care to share as to where we could find that report sir? That seems interesting...

[Apprehended]

Originally Posted by Sunni

Yes.




But please....continue speculating the theories and motives you have created from false information...

It was an invitation for you to set the record straight. Get it?

[NW Pastor]

Originally Posted by blueaugust

@ NW Pastor - Care to share as to where we could find that report sir? That seems interesting...

The report is in the last issue of the Apostolic World Report, published by Pentecom, a group of UPCI (some now former UPCI) ministers. I don't know where you could obtain a copy, though they send them to thousands of preachers. I no longer have mine.

If you ask around you may find someone on this forum willing to scan you a copy.

[Straightline]

Originally Posted by NW Pastor

Which information was false? WPF ministers going to the Philippines? They are working among established UPCI churches? They are not or soon will not be a part of the UPCI?

If the WPF wants to evangelize the world, I applaud them vigorously. But if they want a "quick" established missions program for showcase purposes, one built by others under the auspices of the UPCI its missionaries and nationals, then that is a mistake.

By the way, if you want to talk about false information, read the Apostolic World Report interview of SB in the last issue.

Has it been established that SB & Co is in fact meeting with UPCI pastors?? The initial post on this thread put that as a question - Is it now a fact? Did I miss the verifying post? Thanks!

Logical conclusions form by
keeping the facts in a
Straightline

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Jekyll

Oh, Pel, wake up. I never said it was good that anyone goes into missions fields and takes anything over. This is an accusation of WPF by the anti-WPF. Read my post more clearly. I was contrasting how WPF has only a few members (as stated by some here) but yet they have enough power to rip missions fields away from the UPC. Nice try, though.

I would like to know, what is wrong with someone starting a new organization? By the way, did anyone in leadership ever deny that this was taking place?

NW, if you would like to PM me your real name, a phone number, or some way of legitimate correspondence, I would gladly give you a chance to educate me in missions work. Do you really think a forum is a place to be learning the truth about ANYTHING??? If so, this casts doubt about your ability to separate fact from sensationalism.

Jekyll,

Do you really want to go there on this one?

Yes, everyone denied it was taking place.

By the way, your acerbic online personality is getting very old, very fast.

If you disagree - just say so.

Don't make it personal.

Besides, why do you visit here if you think it's so horrible?

[NW Pastor]

Originally Posted by Straightline

Has it been established that SB & Co is in fact meeting with UPCI pastors?? The initial post on this thread put that as a question - Is it now a fact? Did I miss the verifying post? Thanks!

Logical conclusions form by
keeping the facts in a
Straightline

Who else? SB and Co. have only worked with the UPCI pastors in the past and initially attained influence through UPCI invitations and programs. The assumption is relatively easy.

It is perfectly natural for these men to have a continued desire to work with and have influence over people they ministered to in the past. However, when they chose to leave the UPCI, one consequence of that decision is a loss of both influence and fellowship. Especially on a foreign field, where mixed signals from abroad, however small, can cause great confusion.

These men should continue working in a revival area, such as the P.I. There are multitudes that are caught in dead treditions and in need of the power of the HG. I can only pray that a concerted rather competative effort result from WPF endevors.

But I fear the worst in this case.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by NW Pastor

Who else? SB and Co. have only worked with the UPCI pastors in the past and initially attained influence through UPCI invitations and programs. The assumption is relatively easy.

It is perfectly natural for these men to have a continued desire to work with and have influence over people they ministered to in the past. However, when they chose to leave the UPCI, one consequence of that decision is a loss of both influence and fellowship. Especially on a foreign field, where mixed signals from abroad, however small, can cause great confusion.

These men should continue working in a revival area, such as the P.I. There are multitudes that are caught in dead treditions and in need of the power of the HG. I can only pray that a concerted rather competative effort result from WPF endevors.

But I fear the worst in this case.

So you come here and put out information in an attempt to destroy these mens character, and it is only an ASSUMPTION?? And I thought Satan was the accuser of the brethren.