Originally Posted by Mizpeh
If you read the site you'll realize these folks want to hold the fort! The biggest complaints by other OP's is the lack of a defined "new birth" doctrine! IOW, They've gone "soft" on a basic doctrine!
Written by Believer aka all4Him:
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I think many OP's are realizing more and more that the hard stance is not biblical. The more we see the older hardcore OP preachers retired or die off, more educated younger preacher will take over. Pretty soon, they will be restored back within the ranks of the Trinity Doctrine.
One of the many things I don't like about OP churches, is that they can never get along enough to figure out what doctrines should they all follow. SOme believe that Jesus is God, while others don't. Some believe in some type of incarnation, while others believe in an indwelling. Some actually believe that Christ entered Jesus at His baptism, and left Him on the cross. I've seen so many different ONeness views in these forum to last me a life time.
I put up the first section of the Articles of Faith on CARM for discussion on the OP board to see what Trinitarians would say about the definitions of God, Word, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit used by WPA.
It's interesting what "Believer" wrote, don't you think?
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Pants, for example, scripturally and historically are equivalent to “girding up the loins like a man” (Job 38:3), something women did not do (Deuteronomy 22:5).
Are they serious? Deut 22:5 doesn't mention loins girding. But Prov 31:17 does. And it's talking very specifically about a woman! Sigh.
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Seems like a huge waste of time to form another org just over whether a Church can advertise on TV. I notice they cannot help but promote the same old "immortal soul" error that is so entrenched in the post Apostolic times.
Maybe I'm missing something here.
Do you not believe the soul is immortal? How do you define this "immortal soul" doctrine?
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Daniel 12:3 And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars for ever.
Maybe I'm missing something here.
Do you not believe the soul is immortal? How do you define this "immortal soul" doctrine?
If our soul can die it is not immortal.
28: And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Matt. 10:28
20: Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins. James 5:20
Thank God for this organization that was made out of great men of God willing to stand in front of the face of holiness and say, we will not compromise!
We will not be like Benny Hinn and Paul Crouch. We can win the world without the TV!
Thank God for this organization that was made out of great men of God willing to stand in front of the face of holiness and say, we will not compromise!
We will not be like Benny Hinn and Paul Crouch. We can win the world without the TV!
all the while looking at porn on their computers, right?
Actually, if memory serves me correctly, you where the one that called others liars.
Friends, I have followed this from a little distance since GC. The word given at the beginning was that this was going to be a loose fellowship. This is the reason why many faught the proclamations that it would be an ORG. I have watched as informationally it evolved into what it now is.
WAS IT IN THE MINDS OF THE FOUNDERS TO MAKE IT AN ORG AT THE START?? I do not know, and none of you know for sure either. But the information out there at the start was that it would be a loose fellowship. IF it was in the minds of the organizers, they did not share it to quite a lot of conservative men that have plans on being a part of the Org.
Well, I am now having to correct myself.
The latest word is that the Tulsa Group WILL NOT be giving licenses. They are giving certificates of membership. The local church will be where any licenses are issued.
So while the WPF is an Org of sorts, it is not a licensing Org.
I feel sad for the saints in the local church. I hope that the Pastors that leave keep their members in mind. I have heard too many stories where members of a church were not in favor of the direction of the church but because of pressure, they either had to get in line with the Pastor or leave. I am not talking about rebellion but the control that some ministers have over their saints. If you leave, you are made to feel that you are not right with God. I pray that there is a lot of discussion between the pulpit and the pew in regards to the direction of the church. It's funny I hear preachers say, my church, my ministry, my sheep, didn’t Jesus tell Peter to feed HIS Sheep! Just my opinion...
The latest word is that the Tulsa Group WILL NOT be giving licenses. They are giving certificates of membership. The local church will be where any licenses are issued.
So while the WPF is an Org of sorts, it is not a licensing Org.
Should it be: the Tulsa Group WILL NOT be giving licenses YET? Are they possibly just waiting to see how the membership developes?
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