One CAN'T be a true Christian Apostolic and vote Republian either. In all honesty the only party that comes close to being "Christian" is the Constitutionalist party.
Let's agree on this one...all Apostolics voting Republican or Democrat are phonies. That I might be able to agree with simply because it maintains more consistant logic.
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"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the LORD, plans for wholeness and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope." Jeremiah 29:11 (English Standard Version)
I have voted for a couple of Democrats in my time.
Many years ago I voted for Scoop Jackson in a Democratic Presidential Primary. He didn't get the nomination.
In Hamilton County, Ohio we have three County Commissioners. They have historically been Republicans. The Cincinnati Bengals (our football team) wanted a new stadium that they would not have to share with the Cincinnati Reds (our baseball team). So the Commissioners established an increase in our sales tax (county wide) to pay for tearing down our current stadium/ball field and replace it with 2 new ones --one for the Reds and one for the Bengals. At the next election one of the three spots was open on the County Commission so the unthinkable happened. We voted in a Democrat. Next time a spot was open, another Democrat got voted in. But, we'll be paying that increased sales task for many more years.
Also, in 1964 when LBJ ran against Barry Goldwater we were all warned that if we voted for Goldwater there would be demonstrations and rioting in the streets. Well, I voted for Goldwater, and sure enough, we had demonstrations and rioting in the streets.
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Sam also known as Jim Ellis
Apostolic in doctrine
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Inter-denominational in fellowship
One CAN'T be a true Christian Apostolic and vote Republian either. In all honesty the only party that comes close to being "Christian" is the Constitutionalist party.
Let's agree on this one...all Apostolics voting Republican or Democrat are phonies. That I might be able to agree with simply because it maintains more consistant logic.
Nope, nope, nope. cant agree on that at all.
one CAN but does not HAVE to be a republican and be a christian. However, one cannot be a democrat and be a christian.
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I'm primarily a Republican because I've voted Rep. more than Dem. I'm registered R but in all honesty I'm more independent. And yes, with terms like DemonCrat etc. I know from talking with other Christians that many Christians feel religiously condemned by brothers and sisters in Christ based merely upon their political opinion.
It is DemonRat and they should feel condemned for voting for baby killers.
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I am almost tempted to say that I would vote for the devil if he would promise to appoint conservative/constructionist judges to the Supreme Bench who would help to overturn the RIGHT TO KILL humanity by the millions who are yet unborn. But I'll not go quite that far.
However, it would not be hard to convince me that these Democrats are possessed of the DEVIL himself. They hate everything called Christian. They love and court the SODOMITES for their cause.
I do not believe anyone with a conscience can vote for a Democrat given the absolute stand for all that is evil and anti-christ. I certainly do not believe anyone has the sweet voice of the Spirit of God speaking within them who will then cast their vote for those DEVILS. No way! We've seen too much killing already in the great American Holocaust. Angels are weeping over this. But, it is hard to believe that anyone who names the name of Christ can support such evil. The bible tells us, "Let everyone who names the name of Christ DEPART from evil."
I think if the truth were told, the Republicans are just as pro-choice as the Democrats. But hey, there's no room for truth in the partisan politics I'm seeing here played by brothers who are condemning other brothers. The Republicans are very warmongering and no one cares about the innocent lives lost in the Republican military exploits. Such compromise will land a soul in Hell as quickly as being pro-choice.
I can see the point made above, if any Christian were to truly vote according to “Christian convictions” no Christian could vote for either party (Democratic or Republican). Each party forces a Christian to compromise elements of Christian conviction for the advancement of the political party in question. In recent years it has become evident that the Republicans are excellent liars and pretenders when it comes to pandering to the Christian vote. Who’s a better candidate, a person who lies about being a Christian and believing in Christian values or someone who is rather secular and is honest about it?
The Republican party is playing a game. They are just as liberal on the issues of marriage and abortion as the Democrats.
So since we will be judged by the standard by which we judge others I can honestly say that a vote for either party is a grave sin in the eyes of God. Perhaps Christians could do more for our country by preaching the gospel than they can through using the unsaved worldly political system. The first Apostolic church turned the Roman world upside down by preaching….not by politics. Perhaps our marriage of faith and politics (liberal or conservative) is a grave heresy, a compromise, a testimony to our weakness of faith. I can see why early holiness Christians (Methodists, Amish, Minnonite, etc.) taught that participation in politics was sinful. It causes one to compromise and draw lines and attack fellow brothers and sisters who do not politically agree with us.
So far I’m questioning who’s saved and who isn’t here. If you can’t love a brother or sister who is of the opposite earthly political opinion…you’re damned where you stand.
I think if the truth were told, the Republicans are just as pro-choice as the Democrats. But hey, there's no room for truth in the partisan politics I'm seeing here played by brothers who are condemning other brothers. The Republicans are very warmongering and no one cares about the innocent lives lost in the Republican military exploits. Such compromise will land a soul in Hell as quickly as being pro-choice.
I can see the point made above, if any Christian were to truly vote according to “Christian convictions” no Christian could vote for either party (Democratic or Republican). Each party forces a Christian to compromise elements of Christian conviction for the advancement of the political party in question. In recent years it has become evident that the Republicans are excellent liars and pretenders when it comes to pandering to the Christian vote. Who’s a better candidate, a person who lies about being a Christian and believing in Christian values or someone who is rather secular and is honest about it?
The Republican party is playing a game. They are just as liberal on the issues of marriage and abortion as the Democrats.
So since we will be judged by the standard by which we judge others I can honestly say that a vote for either party is a grave sin in the eyes of God. Perhaps Christians could do more for our country by preaching the gospel than they can through using the unsaved worldly political system. The first Apostolic church turned the Roman world upside down by preaching….not by politics. Perhaps our marriage of faith and politics (liberal or conservative) is a grave heresy, a compromise, a testimony to our weakness of faith. I can see why early holiness Christians (Methodists, Amish, Minnonite, etc.) taught that participation in politics was sinful. It causes one to compromise and draw lines and attack fellow brothers and sisters who do not politically agree with us.
So far I’m questioning who’s saved and who isn’t here. If you can’t love a brother or sister who is of the opposite earthly political opinion…you’re damned where you stand.
I'm primarily a Republican because I've voted Rep. more than Dem. I'm registered R but in all honesty I'm more independent. And yes, with terms like DemonCrat etc. I know from talking with other Christians that many Christians feel religiously condemned by brothers and sisters in Christ based merely upon their political opinion.
I think you're missing the whole point here. I'll put out what I believe about this whole thing. I have been an Executive Director of a Federal PAC for a few years which will support ANYONE, D, R, or I who lives, not just espouses conservative Judeo-Christian principles.
Any Apostolic who votes ONLY along party lines when it comes to candidates does NOT please God! (IMO) What is more important than the party the candidate is registered to is the beliefs the candidate holds. Our PAC was instrumental in getting the first black mayor elected to Youngstown, OH recently. He was basically a D running as an I. I personally sat down with him and had a good talk about where he stood. We also recently endorsed a Democrat, who was running for mayor of another city in Ohio. This man was truly a conservative Christian who knew that he had to run as a D.
I can in good conscience vote for a Democrat who is a "DINO" but I cannot ever vote for a liberal who is trying to bring socialism to the US. It sounds to me like you espouse many of the principles of socialism and would be happy to see them implemented in American politics and society.
Truthfully, I am ticked with the R's for using & abusing me as one of their supporters, but I am vehemently opposed to the Democratic platform and what they predominantly stand for. There are far more left wing wackos in the D party than there are in the R party. I don't know how long that will last until the R's become just as bad.
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