Facial Hair - Your stance on it please

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

In addendum, I believe it is wrong to withhold ministry opportunities to men who have beards. I have a couple of men in my church with them, and have no intention of sitting them down because of it.

They had a beard when they came to God, and I have never condemned them for it. I'm just happy when they are faithful, love God, and take care of their family.

Whether they have a beard or not is like number 53,589,785 on my list of concerns.

What is your 53,486,933rd concern? I'm just curious.

[Thad]

Originally Posted by LadyChocolate

I know you weren't blasting me......i was preparing myself for those who don't agree with me! ANd you are right....And to be honest...we try to be balanced...Concerning pride............ha I've seen people that are very very proud of how holy they were!!!!!!! go figure that one out....

Do I think your lil round buttons that look like pearls are going to send you to hell? don't think so, but some do. Is your gold band on your watch wrong? I think so, try putting on a black leather one...you'll see how quickly people get upset and don't wanna let go of their gold...

I think Jewelry CAN be a Pride issue. I think that Education and Degrees CAN become a Pride Issue as well as so many things that we do not disallow.
I have to admit, I don't know how to answer the scriptures where God seems to advocate the wearing of Jewelry. what do we say to this ?? I'd like to know for my own sake when asked about it

[QueenEsther]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

I know you didn't direct anything at me and I take no offense.

However, I'm not part of their organization. I attend a UPC church, mainly because there isn't any other option, unless I want to be Catholic or Lutheran.

I do not abide by the UPC standards, however, I don't cause trouble over it. I wear skirts to church and make sure my earrings are out. My daughter wears skirts to church as well.

I don't agree with the UPC standards, but why should I go elsewhere just because I don't agree?

Do you agree with everything your husband says? Since I'm sure you don't (because I know how husbands are, and I plan on asking God why He made us from a rib but that action caused the deletion of a few brain cells), do you think you should leave and find another? Vice versa?

Of course not. I agree with the Bible and how I interpret it. I can be (and have been) corrected, but if someone tells me what they think the Bible says and I don't agree, why should I be told to part ways?

Paul and Peter didn't agree either, yet neither of them considered the other to be unsaved, even if they thought one another was in error in their teachings.

And I see no problem with that as long as the person isn't going around to others in the church trying to convince them of their beliefs or they aren't badmouthing the UPC's standards. I don't agree with all of them but I am not gonna bad mouth them or share my thoughts with everyone else in the church. If I really had a problem with them I would go somewhere else.

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by Thad

what about I tim 2:9 and I Pet 3

What about them? They say nothing about jewelry being a sin or even wrong.

Originally Posted by Rhoni

*an earring for each hole in your ear
*a ring for one finger on each hand
*a watch
*a braclelett in every color [white gold and yellow gold, silver, and platinum]
*a diamond necklace

that should about do it...I think...I may have forgotten something

You forgot the toe rings - one for each toe.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

Here is a posting from another forum of what one preacher thinks of beards.
I won't mention his name so I can say how ignorant this statement is.
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There are Pentecostal churches all around me they can go to Heaven from, there I will share. Feeling generous today. (tongue out) Yes this is God's church but I am the poor example of the nit-wit he placed over this work and I am so small-minded and controlling. I say NOT HERE! (deadhorse) I will tell them GO TO HEAVEN but not from here! (six smileys)
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So if you are a child of God's and moved to this man's town and you had a beard you would have NO welcome in this church.

Good Grief !!

Elder Epley did post the comments in bold. Notice he did not say men with a beard would go to Hell. He just said they would need to go to Heaven from somewhere other than his church.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Does Elder Epley really believe that?

Here is a cached page from NFCF. On this page he makes the middle quote from above ab out "they can go to heaven but not from here"

It was in response to one of my posts.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Elder Epley did post the comments in bold. Notice he did not say men with a beard would go to Hell. He just said they would need to go to Heaven from somewhere other than his church.

This is correct.

[Thad]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

*an earring for each hole in your ear
*a ring for one finger on each hand
*a watch
*a braclelett in every color [white gold and yellow gold, silver, and platinum]
*a diamond necklace

that should about do it...I think...I may have forgotten something

Rhoni
if the ears are okay to mutilate and cut for ornimentation, why not the nose, lip, chin, brow, tongue , nipple, etc. you can't just stop at the ear because YOU think it's acceptable

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Chan

You forgot the toe rings - one for each toe.

I only have one toe ring for my right foot...any more than that would be excessive!