Do You Believe In Women Preachers?

[Sister Alvear]

2 Corinthians 10:1 Paul speaks of "the meekness and gentleness of Christ." Matthew 21:5, speaking of Jesus, says, "Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt, the foal of an ass." Jesus rode into Jerusalem on low-class transportation. He was known for His meekness.

[Sister Alvear]

True meekness is power under control.

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Here is the verse since you did not post it
1Pe 3:4 but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious.

It says nothing here about never raising your voice or screaming. Having a meek SPIRIT is not the same as "not raising your voice"...which one would also have to do anyways in a meeting to be heard when prophesying.

Meekness is humility which men are oddly enough supposed to be too...humble and meek or do you think the following verses only apply to women?

Mat 5:5 Blessed are the meek! For they shall inherit the earth.

Mat 11:29 Take My yoke on you and learn of Me, for I am meek and lowly in heart, and you shall find rest to your souls. (Jesus is a man)

Mat 21:5 "Tell the daughter of Zion, Behold, your King comes to you, meek, and sitting on an ass, even a colt the foal of an ass."

Mat 18:4 Therefore whoever shall humble himself like this little child, this one is the greater in the kingdom of Heaven.

The word for "quite" means tranquil and refers to character not the volume of a voice.

Same word is used here for all believers
1Ti 2:2 for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way.

As for spitting and acting like a maniac...you think that is natural for a man?

I find it odd that we went from "yellin and screaming" to "spitting"...it seems like you are being a little bit over melodramatic for the purpose of argument, because you have none.

I would say any man or woman that is SCREAMING has issues, but to say it's a natural characteristic of being a man, which is your argument, is unfounded.

Now if we are speaking of raising the voice in a crescendo as part of a preaching pattern, I see no evidence whatsoever that only a man can raise their voice or that it's a masculine characteristic.

"I do not allow a woman to teach, or to excercise authority over a man. She is to remain Q-U-I-E-T [did ya' get that one?]....These things I write unto you so that you may know how to behave yourself IN THE HOUSE-HOLD OF GOD, WHICH IS THE CHURCH."

Tell us Prax...do these words mean what they instruct to the NT church?

BTW....I "pastored" the lady....she gave me fits, as well as 3 other pastors that I personally know. Her problem is that she desires the position of authority...which is not a woman's in the church. O...lest I forget...prophecy is a gift of the Spirit...not "preaching sermons."

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by rdp

"I do not allow a woman to teach, or to excercise authority over a man. She is to remain Q-U-I-E-T [did ya' get that one?]....These things I write unto you so that you may know how to behave yourself IN THE HOUSE-HOLD OF GOD, WHICH IS THE CHURCH."

Tell us Prax...do these words mean what they instruct to the NT church?

BTW....I "pastored" the lady....she gave me fits, as well as 3 other pastors that I personally know. Her problem is that she desires the position of authority...which is not a woman's in the church. O...lest I forget...prophecy is a gift of the Spirit...not "preaching sermons."

So I guess you gave up on the "screaming is for men" line?

BTW I already addressed this verse earlier. They do mean what they instruct to the NT church. The problem is you don't understand the instructoin

So now that you changed the point again to a different one let me ask this, again, How is a woman to pray or prophesy if she is to be silent. You're quoting scriptures that don't tell us HOW a woman is to preach, which was your original assertion. If you are gonna use these verses as a blanket statement then you must apply them that way.

So the fallacy of your argument is then that a woman CAN preach as long as she does so without raising her voice?

Which still begs the original question of whether or not raising the voice is being like a man, which is essential if she is to prophecy

[jfrog]

rdp, can women testify in church?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by jfrog

rdp, can women testify in church?

If he is consistent that raising the voice is a man thing and women can't, then no

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

If he is consistent that raising the voice is a man thing and women can't, then no

Can you give me some scripture where I can apply the "woman can't raise her voice" to be applicable at home? Boy that would be a revelation!

Been Thinkin

[Sam]

Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

Can you give me some scripture where I can apply the "woman can't raise her voice" to be applicable at home? Boy that would be a revelation!

Been Thinkin

If I remember correctly one of the accepted legal justifications for a man giving his wife a "get" or writing of divorcement was if his she, while speaking in her own house, could be heard by the neighbor next door in his own house.

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by Sam

If I remember correctly one of the accepted legal justifications for a man giving his wife a "get" or writing of divorcement was if his she, while speaking in her own house, could be heard by the neighbor next door in his own house.

Can I get this in writing?

Been Thinkin

[Sister Alvear]

1 Corinthians 14:4 He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church.