Do You Believe In Women Preachers?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by rdp

I can agree w/ this to a certain degree.

Just a thought/question here: I know a lady [I used to pastor her] who was a woman preacher. Let's just say she's very closely connected to my family.

I personally watched her get up & testify once hollering & screaming into the microphone...it was disgusting & I wanted to go under my pew. I've been told by other preachers that she's done the same thing in their presence. She says "it's the anointing," but God does not "anoint" women to act like men. When she would sing in our church services she would literally scream

So hollering and screaming is acting like a man? So if if a man does not holler and scream, he is not a man but a woman? But if a woman raises her voice or screams she is acting like a man?

If that is true then all those horror movies where the women screams and the man protects her had it backwards I guess

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Socialite

Or, what about screaming and yelling is masculine vs. feminine?

Sounds tacky either way

Yup...she is probably doing what she saw the men do and learned it as a "learned behavior" for when you "feel the anointing"

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

So hollering and screaming is acting like a man? So if if a man does not holler and scream, he is not a man but a woman? But if a woman raises her voice or screams she is acting like a man?

If that is true then all those horror movies where the women screams and the man protects her had it backwards I guess

This must be the most manly man I have ever seen!

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

So hollering and screaming is acting like a man? So if if a man does not holler and scream, he is not a man but a woman? But if a woman raises her voice or screams she is acting like a man?

If that is true then all those horror movies where the women screams and the man protects her had it backwards I guess

How absurd! A woman is to have a "QUIET and MEEK spirit, which is, in the sight of God, of great price." But, let me guess, this doesn't mean what it says, just as "not the wearing...of gold" apparently doesn't mean what it says to Praxeas either...right?

Spare me the ol' "apparel' argument, since I handled this ad nauseum. If you cannot see that it's unnatural for a woman to beller', spit, & sputter like a man[-iac], then no wonder you believe in "women preacher's" !

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by rdp

How absurd! A woman is to have a "QUIET and MEEK spirit, which is, in the sight of God, of great price." But, let me guess, this doesn't mean what it says, just as "not the wearing...of gold" apparently doesn't mean what it says to Praxeas either...right?

Spare me the ol' "apparel' argument, since I handled this ad nauseum. If you cannot see that it's unnatural for a woman to beller', spit, & sputter like a man[-iac], then no wonder you believe in "women preacher's" !

Here is the verse since you did not post it
1Pe 3:4 but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious.

It says nothing here about never raising your voice or screaming. Having a meek SPIRIT is not the same as "not raising your voice"...which one would also have to do anyways in a meeting to be heard when prophesying.

Meekness is humility which men are oddly enough supposed to be too...humble and meek or do you think the following verses only apply to women?

Mat 5:5 Blessed are the meek! For they shall inherit the earth.

Mat 11:29 Take My yoke on you and learn of Me, for I am meek and lowly in heart, and you shall find rest to your souls. (Jesus is a man)

Mat 21:5 "Tell the daughter of Zion, Behold, your King comes to you, meek, and sitting on an ass, even a colt the foal of an ass."

Mat 18:4 Therefore whoever shall humble himself like this little child, this one is the greater in the kingdom of Heaven.

The word for "quite" means tranquil and refers to character not the volume of a voice.

Same word is used here for all believers
1Ti 2:2 for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way.

As for spitting and acting like a maniac...you think that is natural for a man?

I find it odd that we went from "yellin and screaming" to "spitting"...it seems like you are being a little bit over melodramatic for the purpose of argument, because you have none.

I would say any man or woman that is SCREAMING has issues, but to say it's a natural characteristic of being a man, which is your argument, is unfounded.

Now if we are speaking of raising the voice in a crescendo as part of a preaching pattern, I see no evidence whatsoever that only a man can raise their voice or that it's a masculine characteristic.

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by rdp

How absurd! A woman is to have a "QUIET and MEEK spirit, which is, in the sight of God, of great price." But, let me guess, this doesn't mean what it says, just as "not the wearing...of gold" apparently doesn't mean what it says to Praxeas either...right?

Spare me the ol' "apparel' argument, since I handled this ad nauseum. If you cannot see that it's unnatural for a woman to beller', spit, & sputter like a man[-iac], then no wonder you believe in "women preacher's" !

rdp, I think you better stop and check your saddle.... I think you may have a burr under it! "SMILE!"

Been Thinkin

[Sister Alvear]

King James Bible
(Now the man Moses [was] very meek, above all the men which [were] upon the face of the earth.)

[Sister Alvear]

The blessedness of meekness is a special grace which is given from the Lord and is a wonderful character trait for both men and women.

[Falla39]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

The blessedness of meekness is a special grace which is given from the Lord and is a wonderful character trait for both men and women.

And MEEKNESS IS NOT WEAKNESS!

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Falla39

And MEEKNESS IS NOT WEAKNESS!

meekness has been defined as strength with direction

I have a note in the margin of my Bible at Matthew 5:5 which says:
"Meek does not mean weak. It means focused, used to describe a domesticated stallion, power under control. Max Lucado