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10-12-2017, 04:15 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.
26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father....
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
Right.
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10-12-2017, 04:27 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.
26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father
Right, the Father spoke to and through Jesus.
What H/U has done is attempt to strip Jesus of his individuality in nearly every verse in which he speaks of his Father.
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10-12-2017, 04:28 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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"for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins". "I am HE"??
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Right, Jesus is the messiah.
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10-12-2017, 04:30 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.
30 As he spake these words, many believed on him.
Right Jesus is the messiah.
The messiah can do nothing of himself.
He said the Father is with him and has not left him alone, not the Father is with Himself.
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10-12-2017, 04:33 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.....
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
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10-12-2017, 04:35 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
Now, you see how easy that is to explain at face value, TK?
Right, God in Jesus speaking through him, not God becoming Jesus and pretending to be another person who has a God.
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10-12-2017, 04:48 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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No, I didn't say that.
Is this how you teach?
That isn't a very nice way to teach someone
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Now this made my soda almost come out of my nose in laughter!
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10-12-2017, 04:51 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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No, I do not teach that Jesus had Divine flesh. I do not teach that Jesus was God In the Flesh. I teach that Jesus was resurrected as God when the fullness of the Godhead began to dwell in him bodily at the resurrection.
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So how is Jesus Christ not Jehovah GOD in the flesh?
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10-12-2017, 04:52 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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So Jesus was not God before the resurrection?
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No, they killed him. Man can't kill God. I hope you don't think that?
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They didn't kill Him.
He laid down His life, like a sheep led to the slaughter.
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10-12-2017, 05:07 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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In my opinion. There are only two options. Either Jesus was implanted or began as a sperm cell.
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St. Luke 1:35
English Standard Version
And the angel answered her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy—the Son of God.
Jesus' birth was a MIRACULOUS Work of the Holy Spirit. The Bible is silent on the technicalities of how all of this came about-- but GOD made sure that the human parents of Jesus Christ were both of the line of David.
How do people explain the technicalities of a miracle? If the technicalities of a miracle could be understood with the rational mind, it would not be a true miracle.
I find it interesting that the KJV speaks of the baby Jesus as, "that holy thing" while the ESV, which is supposed to be the most accurate version of the Bible we have in the English language literally uses the word, "child".
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