Question concerning an evangelist & pastor

Originally Posted by Rico

Since you brought up the Bible, how about those scriptures that talk about denying oneself? How about the other ones that talk about loving not the world neither the things in the world? How do they fit in with your "what's wrong with self on some level" wisdom?

one is perfectly capable of writing a nonsense song (see: "Rawkfist" by TFK) that is nothing but catchy and possibly self-advertising a smidge and still deny themselves...

since a Christian is seperate from the world, one is perfectly capable of loving themself and not loving the world or the things in the world...

(yes, I am being difficult lol)

seriously, though, its a song, stop trying to make it some high-level theology... the songs are either evangelical in some form, worshipful, or silly/stupid... and occasionally a love song is thrown in... Its just music...

Originally Posted by Rico

The Bible says all of Heaven rejoices over one sinner repenting. You know, for as long as you claim to have been in church you sure don't seem to know much about the Bible.

I don't think you cought what I was saying... Yes, all of heaven rejoices (as do I) when one person is saved...

My point was that the Bible says that in the endtimes a revival will come that will make the revival immediately following Christ's death look small (read: we will do greater things)...

But we aren't doing greater things... Saving 5 in a weekend isn't greater than saving 3,000 in a moment... Its great that 5 got saved, but... why aren't we seeing greater things?

[Rico]

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

but it wouldn't be a novelty that attracted a ton of people... I mean, it might in some places (I'd say down south = better chance than up north or out west), but in most places I just don't think it would attract the crowds that it did 40-50 years ago...

Really? And you know this because?????

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

Its funny... The Bible talks about loving everyone and not judging people so much more than it talks about speaking in tongues and baptism in Jesus' name combined....

The scripture you're searching for also speaks of removing the mote out of one's own eye so that you may SEE rightly and then remove the speck out of the eye of your brother. Don't you understand the scripture? Your hero needs salvation, would you be more concerned if he was a Jehovah Witness or Roman Catholic with a testimony? Would you still be in awe, or would you feel compelled to expound the way of the Lord more perfectly to him and the rest of his band?

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

But we feel we can ignore the love part and we cram the Jesus' name part down everyone's throat... Its a joke...

No, it's not a joke, it's serious but you wouldn't know that since you're blinded by McChurchanity. Hey, have it your way.

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

God is more worried about use showing love to everyone and showing grace, and being holy in action (not just dress).... And we don't do any of those things...

Sorry young man, but WE are not part of YE, not on this issue anyway.

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

We apostolics tend to be the most hateful, mean-spirited people one could run across...

Here we go boys and girls, now we can just sit back and hear the melodious tones of an angry young man. Yep there you have it, hateful, nasty, mean, and that's why they are still around and still preaching, and still winning souls. Try harder and try to really get around more often, maybe you can save up and get a bus ticket out of Wee-Patch and go around America and visit some other Apostolic Pentecostal churches.

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

Attacking everyone over such stupid things and condemning the entire world... But we forget that the first commandment is to love God with everything...

So loving God is accepting everything that makes your heart go pitter-patter?

How about truly loving God and stand for something other than the fuzzy feelings of an entertainer. Not everything that says Lord Lord will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. Try and stick with Truth, believe me the people will thank you for it.

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

and the second one isn't to baptize in Jesus' name, its to love your neighbor as yourself...

Guess what, if you love your neighbor as yourself you will show them the right way to be saved. You won't make accuses why they are fine the way they are.

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

So, bro. Benincasa, the next time you feel the need to get on your high horse and accuse poeple who you know nothing aobut of things that you don't know if they do or not... Remember that God said to love people, and he siad that loving EVERYONE (saved or not) is more important that baptism in Jesus name...

Excuse me, but how old are you? Do you even know what you are saying?
Where in the Bible does it say what you're trying to present to me? Do me a favor try putting what you just typed above in chapter and verse form. Do you even attend an Apostolic Pentecostal Church?

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

and remember that even if you believe in the right baptism, God isn't going to accept you if you don't love everyone...

No, what you're trying to say is excuse everyone. I think you need to ask your pastor or find a pastor.

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

and accusing people you don't know of things that you don't know if they do or not, is not loving them... That's called libel and slander, which is lying, too...

No not slander, it's not slander when it's truth. Your boys are Trinitarian easy believers, plain and simple, you know that's a fact. So wipe your tears and heed what I'm trying to say to you.

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

So, go get on your knees, and beg God to show you some mercy, even though you don't deserve it, because you don't have the willingness to show mercy to anyone else...

You don't know what mercy is, if you did you wouldn't stand by and watch people run into hell. You would warn them and tell them the truth.

You would rather be part of those who run the broad way and mainstream and be swept away with the crowd.

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

Mark 12:33

Try to understand verses 29-30 before you quote me verse 33.

Good night, and grow up.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

[Rico]

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

23, thank you very much...

Believe me when I tell you, "It shows!" LOL!

[Rico]

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

one is perfectly capable of writing a nonsense song (see: "Rawkfist" by TFK) that is nothing but catchy and possibly self-advertising a smidge and still deny themselves...

since a Christian is seperate from the world, one is perfectly capable of loving themself and not loving the world or the things in the world...

(yes, I am being difficult lol)

seriously, though, its a song, stop trying to make it some high-level theology... the songs are either evangelical in some form, worshipful, or silly/stupid... and occasionally a love song is thrown in... Its just music...

You are the one who said, "what's wrong with self on some level", not me. The Bible teaches to deny oneself, as I pointed out. That's what's wrong with "self on some level." That kind of thinking is contrary to the Word.

Originally Posted by Rico

You are the one who said, "what's wrong with self on some level", not me. The Bible teaches to deny oneself, as I pointed out. That's what's wrong with "self on some level." That kind of thinking is contrary to the Word.

one is capable of writing a nonsense song that talks about themself in some way... and still denying themselves...

go back and look at what I said in the context it was said in rather than trying to trap me in some lame corner...

[Rico]

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

I don't think you cought what I was saying... Yes, all of heaven rejoices (as do I) when one person is saved...

My point was that the Bible says that in the endtimes a revival will come that will make the revival immediately following Christ's death look small (read: we will do greater things)...

But we aren't doing greater things... Saving 5 in a weekend isn't greater than saving 3,000 in a moment... Its great that 5 got saved, but... why aren't we seeing greater things?

It isn't all about the numbers, R. God saves people one at a time, no matter how many are in a group.

Originally Posted by Rico

It isn't all about the numbers, R. God saves people one at a time, no matter how many are in a group.

that still doesn't answer my question...

We claim to be the end times church, and the Bible says that in the end-times a revival greater than anything that has ever been seen will happen...

well, where is it???

[Rico]

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

one is capable of writing a nonsense song that talks about themself in some way... and still denying themselves...

go back and look at what I said in the context it was said in rather than trying to trap me in some lame corner...

Brother, you have been trapping yourself in a corner, with no help from me.