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Old 09-12-2007, 11:15 AM
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Both the preacher and the teacher are needed in every church....

A few more possibilities....

Preaching draws men unto Christ, while teaching develops men in Christ....

Preaching compels the emotions, while teaching deals with the mind and soul....

Preaching is the salesman that causes men to buy into a dream, while teaching is the construction crew that builds that dream according to the blueprint design brick by brick.... precept upon precept....
I like that, i teach sometimes in our church.
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:18 AM
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If "preacher" and "teacher" are the same...then that would mean that "preacher" is mentioned in the 5-fold ministry by default...under "teacher." Are you sure you're going to go with that one?
I had the same observation. That is why it is called the foolishness of Preaching.

The teacher puts aside the foolishness and takes us from the cross to Eternity.
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:43 AM
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My dad -- Bro. Bill Worrell - his Wednesday night Bible studies would be the study of a book or a particular subject - verse by verse. Some real digging into the Word. I really miss that. Just a plain old country boy, not well-educated. Wisdom from God.

Ann and Bill Luther -- I remember both these folks being excellent teachers when I was growing up

Jimmy Greer - another teacher I remember (and his wife was excellent in music matters!)

Leonard Glover - again, not a well known name, but he was TN UPC pastor for awhile and later pastored out of UPC in Illinois. Very kind, compassionate man with excellent teaching skills.

LH Hardwick. I still have notes from a class Bro. Hardwick taught when I was quite young at a TN youth camp.

JT Pugh - remember many TN camps where he was the teacher
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:45 AM
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You are a one issue man.

These guys teach plural eldership...that is the only thing that distinguishes them in the Pentecostal ranks.
You could not be more wrong. I am not a one issue man neither are they. They teach the post trib rapture, soul sleep, and annihilation of the lost in Hell. So do ALL OTHER Pentecostals teach this? If so let them stand up and be counted.
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:45 AM
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The two most Biblically sound teachers in the Apostolic Pentecostal movement I know of are David Huston and Jim Mckinley. Accuracy in doctrine is what makes a teacher a teacher.

On the Godhead John Eckstat stands out above ANY I ever heard.

Back in January I was invited to speak in a Oneness Pentecostal room on Paltak . I believe this group had been meeting several times a week for at least a year or two. The Sister who invited me said they had never had a teacher speak before.

By the way where is "preacher" listed among the five fold ministry?
The one thing I heard most about the teaching of Eckstat was his oneness teachings. I've never heard of the other two.
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:54 AM
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If "preacher" and "teacher" are the same...then that would mean that "preacher" is mentioned in the 5-fold ministry by default...under "teacher." Are you sure you're going to go with that one?
My thinking is that ANYONE can be a "preacher". Preaching is "proclaiming". Everyone is called to do that.

The modern thinking is a preacher is behind a pulpit. He preaches "hot sermons" and gets the people stirred. Anytime he is using scripture to inform or to educate he could as easily be called a teacher.

Im not saying preacher does not exist. Im just saying it is given far more weight than teacher and that is not the way it should be.
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Old 09-12-2007, 12:18 PM
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Who stands out? In my mind........

JT Pugh - top of the list - definitely but not just for his skill or ability. Just because it's JT. There's nobody like him ... for more than one reason.

EP Wickens

George Glass Sr.

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Many of the names mentioned on this thread are strangers to me. Never heard tell of them.
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Old 09-12-2007, 12:35 PM
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One thing that we thought was really lacking in UPC when we were involved was good solid Bible teaching. Most of the preachers just preached (loud and emotional) and it was great, but there wasn't much teaching. Even Wed. night Bible study sounded just like a Sunday sermon in most places.

Eddie is a teacher more than a preacher, so he never really fit into that mold. He never gets loud, but the words he delivers are powerful and anointed and life changing. I think there is room for both in the body of Christ, but it seems like preaching way overshadows teaching in OP ranks.
My dad was, in my opinion one of the greatest Bible Teachers I ever heard. In fact, he was much like Eddie in that even in his evangelistic preaching he was ALWAYS teaching! His eighth grade education never diminished but always enhanced his teaching in that he was a communicator at anyone's level.

I have sat in the room with Dad and some of the renowned UPC Bible teachers and watched him twist their tails in knots on subject matter on which they disagreed!

Others from the past:

B E Echols (if you could stand the strong meat)
Robert Sabin in his day
Bro. J T Pugh
Floyd Odom

E L Holley was my favorite from my days at TBC, closely followed by Bro. Anderson.

And, although I have never heard him, I imagine Scott Graham would be a great teacher as he is a great preacher.
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Old 09-12-2007, 01:04 PM
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Old 09-12-2007, 01:11 PM
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E.L. Holley...what a teacher.

J.R. Ensey

Nate Wilson, one of my absolute favorites.

J.T. Pugh is superlative in any role of ministry, a prince among preachers.

One that hasn't yet been mentioned that I loved hearing was W.V. Cooling.
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