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Old 08-14-2017, 10:07 PM
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Re: The Sabbath Day, Should You Keep or not Keep?

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Among those of us who are part of the Set-Apart Apostolic persuasion, Classical Dispensationalism is, of course, rejected. But neither do most give much credence to Covenant Theology because usually Covenant Theology is associated with Double Predestination and with Replacement Theology. Some Set-Apart Apostolics come from a Progressive Dispensationalist background, from Messianic Olive-Tree Theology, or from what is also being labelled Remnant of Israel Theology. A few that I know come from a SDA background. But most do not study Rushdoony, or Gary DeMar, or David Chilton, or Gary North, or any of the Reconstructionists that I know of.
I'm not a "Covenant Theologian" as the term is commonly used (meaning Calvinist/Reformed theology). Definitely not dispensationalist.

On eschatology I'm what would probably be called continuous historical or historicist (premillennial variety) as opposed to futurist or preterist. I do not believe in replacement theology, I believe the church is new covenant Israel. Meaning, Israel was under the old covenant, and is now under the new covenant in Christ. I'm thoroughly theonomic, not sure I'd use the term reconstructionist, I believe revival must come before reformation.

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Old 08-14-2017, 10:09 PM
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Thank you, Esaias, for your contribution. I appreciate your viewpoint, and your responses.
Thanks! I'm sure we'll eventually find something to argue about, but I'm also sure we can handle it. Iron sharpens iron, and all that.
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Old 08-14-2017, 10:14 PM
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Well, I did intend to mean Theonomist instead of Reconstructionist. Usually, the two terms are used to describe the same ideology, though. But I consider myself a theonomist basically.
Also, your view concerning Israel sounds like what Remnant-Israel Theology espouses, and is what we also believe in.
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Old 08-14-2017, 10:17 PM
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Well, I did intend to mean Theonomist instead of Reconstructionist. Usually, the two terms are used to describe the same ideology, though. But I consider myself a theonomist basically.
Also, your view concerning Israel sounds like what Remnant-Israel Theology espouses, and is what we also believe in.
I was suddenly reminded of an old baptist joke, but I'll refrain.

How many assemblies are in your fellowship? Did I understand you that your assembly is one of several?
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Old 08-14-2017, 10:19 PM
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Re: The Sabbath Day, Should You Keep or not Keep?

Interesting, though. And yet are you not a part of any larger Sabbath-keeping Apostolic group like the Pentecostal Church of Zion, the CACI or the Set-Apart Apostolic Movement?
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Old 08-14-2017, 10:21 PM
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Yes, our movement is a growing network of Sabbath-keeping Apostolic assemblies. There are about seven established local assemblies, with a few upstart study groups spread throughout three states in the south. Mostly in Florida.
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Old 08-14-2017, 10:23 PM
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Re: The Sabbath Day, Should You Keep or not Keep?

Set-Apart Apostolic people are Sabbath-keeping, Sacred Namer Apostolics who teach Hebrew-Roots and Commandment-keeping.
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Old 08-14-2017, 10:24 PM
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Re: The Sabbath Day, Should You Keep or not Keep?

Household congregationalism is a big emphasis among us, but many of us ALSO utilize buildings such as storefronts and the like.
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Old 08-14-2017, 10:25 PM
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My congregation is in Kissimmee, Fl. We practice discipleship in a household setting, but we also meet on Saturdays at a storefront congregation.
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Old 08-14-2017, 10:27 PM
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Overall, this movement is very small right now.
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