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Jesus is God, but God doesn't have a birthday, but I'm not separating them into two beings. 21 100.00%
Jesus is God, so I celebrate God's BD because celebrating Jesus' BD means I believe Jesus isn't God. 0 0%
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Old 07-26-2007, 12:24 PM
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HO...

You are exactly right in the WAS sense. But you would be completely wrong in the IS sense.

God bless you sis. You are on the right track.
That's why I made sure to note that to the readers, because on the other forum, I was being quoted as saying IS when I said WAS.
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Old 07-26-2007, 12:24 PM
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I do not believe that God has or ever had a dual nature.

Jesus, during his earthly life had a dual nature. He had a human nature when he was here in His preglorified state. His nature now is entirely divine.
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Old 07-26-2007, 12:45 PM
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I'm posting a few things that I believe. Notice the word 'was' as opposed to 'is'. I'm typing these speaking of Jesus as the man He was on earth, and God as He's always been, so read these in that light.

I believe that Jesus was born, but God was not.

I believe that Jesus died, but God did not.

I believe that the Father was greater than Jesus as a man.

I believe that Jesus could be in only one spot at a time, but God is everywhere.

I believe that Jesus had the capacity to sin, but God did not.

I believe that Jesus was limited in knowledge, but God was not.

I believe that Jesus came into existance, but God did not, as He always was.

I believe that Jesus was baptized, but God was not.

I believe that Jesus was anointed with the Holy Ghost, but God was not.

I believe that the Holy Ghost came down on Jesus, but not on God.

I believe that Jesus was the Son, but God was not.

I believe that God was the Father, but Jesus was not.

I believe that Jesus had a separate will than that of the Father.

I believe that God is not a person, except through Jesus Christ.

Now, Rico is going to come and say that I'm separating Jesus from God, making them into two beings, but that's not the case. I'm merely recognizing the dual nature of God and flesh manifested in the man Christ Jesus.
The bolded comments are comments I believe are contrary to Oneness doctrine. You conveniently forgot to mention, and I am quoting you, "God is not a person." As I review other comments you have made I will post them as well.

This is one situation where I wish it was within the rules to bring entire conversations from other boards over here. I created a 37 page document of direct quotes from just one of the threads where this was being discussed. The thread where you made this post is a spin off of the original thread where this dipute originated from. There were at least five people questioning the comments you had made because they sounded very anti-oneness. One poster in particular went to great lengths to show you, from a grammatical standpoint, how you were separating Jesus and God.

It all fell on deaf ears, just like every pm I have sent you this week, every post I've made to you this week, and every attempt that was made back then to point out what you were doing. You have skirted the points that others have tried to make, diverted attention away from the issue at hand, started polls thinking that that would somehow show how right you are (without giving people the benefit of knowing how this whole thing got started in the first place), and done everything in your power to avoid admitting that statements like "God didn't get baptized. Jesus did." are contrary to the belief that Jesus is God and God is Jesus.

God did, in fact get baptized because Jesus is God and He got baptized when He walked this earth.

God did, in fact die, in that He experienced a physical death just like you and I will someday. Just like His Spirit did not die, neither will yours. But God's body did die on that cross.

Jesus is, in fact, the Father. He was crucified for claiming to be none other than God. When He said, "Before Abraham was, I AM," it meant that he was claiming deity. There is only one God and that is Who He was letting everyone around Him know was standing in their presence.

H.O., I don't care how you try to spin it, divert it or deny it, YOU HAVE MADE COMMENTS CONTRARY TO ONENESS DOCTRINE. You have said that God never got baptized, He never died on the cross, and that the Father isn't Jesus. Case closed.
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Old 07-26-2007, 12:46 PM
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God did not have a Father, but Jesus did.

Oops, I did it again..........
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Old 07-26-2007, 12:46 PM
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all truth, bless you brother, dt
Thank you.

I'll be glad when I can come into that same glory, laying aside this temptation proned, weakness of this house of death, to awake in HIS likeness.
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Old 07-26-2007, 12:51 PM
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Thank you.

I'll be glad when I can come into that same glory, laying aside this temptation proned, weakness of this house of death, to awake in HIS likeness.
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Old 07-26-2007, 12:52 PM
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The bolded comments are comments I believe are contrary to Oneness doctrine. You conveniently forgot to mention, and I am quoting you, "God is not a person." As I review other comments you have made I will post them as well.

This is one situation where I wish it was within the rules to bring entire conversations from other boards over here. I created a 37 page document of direct quotes from just one of the threads where this was being discussed. The thread where you made this post is a spin off of the original thread where this dipute originated from. There were at least five people questioning the comments you had made because they sounded very anti-oneness. One poster in particular went to great lengths to show you, from a grammatical standpoint, how you were separating Jesus and God.

It all fell on deaf ears, just like every pm I have sent you this week, every post I've made to you this week, and every attempt that was made back then to point out what you were doing. You have skirted the points that others have tried to make, diverted attention away from the issue at hand, started polls thinking that that would somehow show how right you are (without giving people the benefit of knowing how this whole thing got started in the first place), and done everything in your power to avoid admitting that statements like "God didn't get baptized. Jesus did." are contrary to the belief that Jesus is God and God is Jesus.

God did, in fact get baptized because Jesus is God and He got baptized when He walked this earth.

God did, in fact die, in that He experienced a physical death just like you and I will someday. Just like His Spirit did not die, neither will yours. But God's body did die on that cross.

Jesus is, in fact, the Father. He was crucified for claiming to be none other than God. When He said, "Before Abraham was, I AM," it meant that he was claiming deity. There is only one God and that is Who He was letting everyone around Him know was standing in their presence.

H.O., I don't care how you try to spin it, divert it or deny it, YOU HAVE MADE COMMENTS CONTRARY TO ONENESS DOCTRINE. You have said that God never got baptized, He never died on the cross, and that the Father isn't Jesus. Case closed.
Rico, there is one problem you have but cannot get over.

EVERYONE AGREES WITH ME EXCEPT YOU!

Case closed.
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Old 07-26-2007, 12:58 PM
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The bolded comments are comments I believe are contrary to Oneness doctrine.
I will address them separately.

I believe that Jesus died, but God did not.

God cannot die. The Bible says God is eternal and forever.

I believe that Jesus was baptized, but God was not.

While I believe that God dwelt inside the man, it was not for God's benefit that Jesus was baptised. Jesus also prayed to God, but God didn't pray to Himself. God doesn't pray nor does He need to pray.

I believe that God was the Father, but Jesus was not.

Jesus also agrees with me. He even stated that there were things He didn't know that the Father did know. Jesus was NOT the Father when in human form. He was the Son of God, and the Bible states that over and over.

Got scripture that says otherwise? Let's see it.
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:02 PM
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I will address them separately.

I believe that Jesus died, but God did not.

God cannot die. The Bible says God is eternal and forever.

I believe that Jesus was baptized, but God was not.

While I believe that God dwelt inside the man, it was not for God's benefit that Jesus was baptised. Jesus also prayed to God, but God didn't pray to Himself. God doesn't pray nor does He need to pray.

I believe that God was the Father, but Jesus was not.

Jesus also agrees with me. He even stated that there were things He didn't know that the Father did know. Jesus was NOT the Father when in human form. He was the Son of God, and the Bible states that over and over.

Got scripture that says otherwise? Let's see it.
Well,

I think that you pretty much sewed it up, put it in a neat package and tied a ribbon on it, HO.
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:06 PM
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good job guys and you are playing so well together, lol, , dt
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