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Old 05-01-2016, 08:28 PM
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Re: The Johannine Comma: Inspiration? Or Interpola

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Baloney, that is exactly a good reason to abandon the KJV and use the new versions.
It you are a fan of the Critical Text from the Westcott-Hort recension, you will not be using the AV and you will like, or at least work with, the hundreds of competing and confusing modern version editions.

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Old 05-01-2016, 08:31 PM
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It you are a fan of the Critical Text from the Westcott-Hort recension, you will not be using the AV and you will like the hundreds of competing and confusing modern version editions.

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I use all versions and compare all versions, ancient and modern. AV and non-AV.

If you are a KJV Only fan, you are barking up the wrong tree.
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Old 05-01-2016, 09:30 PM
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I use all versions and compare all versions, ancient and modern. AV and non-AV..
When the CT tells you that 40+ verses are not scripture, including the Mark ending, do you believe they are telling you the truth?

Would you agree that at least one of the two texts, Received Text or Critical Text, must have thousands of corruptions?

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Old 05-01-2016, 10:53 PM
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When the CT tells you that 40+ verses are not scripture, including the Mark ending, do you believe they are telling you the truth?

Would you agree that at least one of the two texts, Received Text or Critical Text, must have thousands of corruptions?

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Old 05-02-2016, 12:41 AM
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I do not have to believe nothing and I do not have to agree with nothing.
That is a good motto for the modern version confusion, along with:

"Read the modern versions, you don't know what you are missing."
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Old 05-02-2016, 01:18 AM
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Re: The Johannine Comma: Inspiration? Or Interpola

No 2 Greek manuscripts are identical. They all have slight differences in word order, spelling and good old fashioned copying errors.

This is true for all critical texts. No matter how you group the manuscripts, some one, the editor" determines how the text will read in his edition of the NT.

Is one group of manuscripts right and a different group wrong ? What about the manuscripts that do not fit well into a group ?
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Old 05-02-2016, 12:12 PM
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No 2 Greek manuscripts are identical. They all have slight differences in word order, spelling and good old fashioned copying errors.

This is true for all critical texts. No matter how you group the manuscripts, some one, the editor" determines how the text will read in his edition of the NT.

Is one group of manuscripts right and a different group wrong ? What about the manuscripts that do not fit well into a group ?
You are absolutely correct in these statements.
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Old 05-02-2016, 12:16 PM
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That is a good motto for the modern version confusion, along with:

"Read the modern versions, you don't know what you are missing."
What about what the AV is missing?

Of course you conveniently forget to mention that.

please go back to whatever "KJV Only" cave you came from.

Your "KJV Only" horse has been beaten to the atomic level.

The "KJV Only" crowd is a dying crowd, please do us a favor and hurry up the process.
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Old 05-02-2016, 01:39 PM
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What about what the AV is missing? Of course you conveniently forget to mention that. please go back to whatever "KJV Only" cave you came from. Your "KJV Only" horse has been beaten to the atomic level. The "KJV Only" crowd is a dying crowd, please do us a favor and hurry up the process.
I'm not sure whether this sort of silliness is allowed on this forum. And I remember that we used to have excellent discussions a couple of years back.

Let's see if anyone with some insight wants to continue the discussion.

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Old 05-02-2016, 01:40 PM
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Then the question is why did Erasmus removed it from his 4th and 5th edition of the Greek NT?
This is simply an error. The heavenly witnesses was in edition 3,4,5 of the Erasmus GNT.

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Erasmus did not put the Comma in his first or second edition of his Greek Text, he only added it to the 3rd edition and then he removed it from the 4th and the 5th edition. It was his third edition that was the only one that used the Comma.
This was the same blunder, earlier in the thread.

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