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Old 06-28-2015, 05:54 PM
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Re: Effective evangelists?

31....prophesy one by one.....

32......spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.....



Who among us cannot connect these 2 verses?

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Re: Effective evangelists?

Those are good points, but unless we want to say Paul has contradicted himself, we have to make a conclusion somehow.

I conclude the following:

When Paul wrote "the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets", he did not include any definite article before the word for prophets, or for spirits, meaning no "the" is anywhere present in Greek.

See: http://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/14-32.htm

This means that Paul is not referring to the group of people who should be understood as "the prophets" as in the five-fold ministry. Rather, he is merely referring to those who prophesy under the unction of the Holy Spirit through the gift of prophecy. This doesn't make them official prophets in terms of the five-fold ministry. Rather, that when one prophesies, one is temporarily gifted to function like a prophet.

Was King Saul a prophet? He prophesied, but he is never called a prophet just for doing so. Caiaphas prophesied, but was not a prophet.
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Who says they were not Aaron?(you forgot Baalam, the sinful prophet of God).....Must you run to some foriegn Greek source to attempt to override what Paul clearly said in verse 31 and 32 of you KJV Bible?

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Old 06-28-2015, 06:01 PM
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31....prophesy one by one.....

32......spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.....



Who among us cannot connect these 2 verses?


Look hard Aaron....Paul calls them all "prophets" here......verse 31, the saints must prophecy one at a time.... Verse 32, because they, as prophets, have the ability to control WHEN to prophecy.

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Paul realized that prophets prophecy.

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Does anyone think that there are possibly 2 types of prophets in the church now(because of ones' insistence of a 5 fold ministry separation), then please explain it.


Major and minor prophets maybe?

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Old 06-28-2015, 06:06 PM
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Or maybe, just maybe...the 5 fold ministry is bigger than we realize!....It may even include women!!!(as long as they are not teaching or usurping authority over a man in the churches)





Now that will wake this thread up...LOL

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Aaron, I believe if you or even your wife have EVER prophecied, as a Holy Ghost filled believer, that in itself had "qualified" you or her to be part of the 5 fold ministry.


Same with teaching, or evangelizing...etc.

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Who says they were not Aaron?(you forgot Baalam, the sinful prophet of God).....Must you run to some foriegn Greek source to attempt to override what Paul clearly said in verse 31 and 32 of you KJV Bible?
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I did
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