Rockets hitting Jerusalem

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by n david

Is this NFS? The posts are about the same...everyone is wrong except you. Everyone is blinded but you. We're all stupid sheep supporting Israel.

I am not the only one who feels this way--i am just the only one autistic enough today to not care about the blackballing i will get for these posts. you can't imagine this is enjoyable or anything.

Originally Posted by n david

Why do you hate Israel so? Are you anti-Semite?

i had no idea i was so opaque. I love Israel, the nation...i just detest the Rothschilds, "children of wrath," who conceived of the country of Israel over God's will.

[n david]

Originally Posted by shazeep

i believe the question is irrelevant, which is why i didn't bother to answer it. God has shown Himself amply able to defend Israel, the nation, when they needed it, and also able to destroy Israel the country when they refused to worship Him.

i believe Hamas is God's instrument, and will also get what they deserve, which is surely similar to the reward other of His instruments received in the OT.

It's not irrelevant. You obviously are against Israel defending itself, which begs the question, do you support Hamas? Do you believe it's a terrorist organization?

[shazeep]

no, i am bbyrd009, not nfs. i can provide many, many google links myself--or anyone may go and find the truth, among all the lies. difficult, but not impossible. i do not fault anyone their beliefs. peace to you guys.

[n david]

Originally Posted by shazeep

i had no idea i was so opaque. I love Israel, the nation...i just detest the Rothschilds, "children of wrath," who conceived of the country of Israel over God's will.

Put away the tin hat theories about the Rothschilds for a moment. You say you love the nation of Israel, then why not support her right to defend herself?

You do realize that these same Palestinians you say are the victims, would love to see the nation of Israel you love burn to the ground and all the people wiped out?

As far as the Bible goes, the Palestinians are not God's people. They've been a thorn in the side of God from Old Testament days. They were never part of God's plan. And if Saul would have listened to God and wiped them out when he was commanded to, the Palestinians wouldn't be around today still bringing conflict against Israel.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by shazeep

yes--imagine the level of frustration one must be at to make suicide bombing an option--much less a societally accepted one

you simply side with Israel because that is what you have been indoctrinated to do, and you are a good little sheep. Nothing wrong with that, as far as it goes--but unfortunately, your leaders are monsters, and not the benevolent ones you may think they are. They are not even your government--those have been entirely bought and paid for by the real leaders, those under satan--as your Bible will tell you. And 1Sam8 will delineate to others--if not to you--why you think you need any 'allies' in the Mideast

See that once the stage, the premises, have been decided beforehand, nothing you say can make any sense after that. Your brainwashing is so complete that you are going to gasp at the truth when it is revealed to you--and revealed it will be. Those verses we read in Scripture and apply to unfortunate others actually belong to, and speak to, us. You, and me.

Wadr, your speech about the integrity of a country is just comedy, and i don't wish to make the truth any harder for you to accept by laughing. For what it's worth, i grew up believing exactly as you do, and the truth was not easy to accept for me--still isn't.

As to the "Chomsky is Ashkenazi" statement, by someone else--i cannot speak to this, and for all i know it might be true; but see that there is a physical reality there, and a spiritual one, and that Chomsky can hardly be accused of the latter.

The sad truth is, if you side with Israel now, you back murderers, and any bleating about the much more televised responses by any revenge groups just displays ones slavish acceptance of the power of mass media run amok. Jesus, man, you have like 6 entities owning everything you consume now, media-wise. Please wake up. Or don't, i really don't care.

1. The policy of Hamas is to destroy the state of Israel, using terrorism to achieve that goal - FACT.

2. Hamas houses their rockets within their civilian population, i.e., in facilities such as hospitals, schools, residential complexes - blocking their civilians from fleeing a war zone - DOUBLE WAR CRIME.

3. Hamas intentionally aims its rockets at Israeli civilian populations - THIRD WAR CRIME.

I don't support and defend Israel based on Bible prophecy. I support and defend Israel as our only "Democratic Ally" in the Middle East.

You need to wake up and stop defending terrorism. End of my conversation with you. You can't see facts.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by shazeep

twisted, but contains some truth, when one separates the nation of Israel--the people, that is--from the country of Israel, created by corrupt men. Btw, God divorced the nation, maybe you would like to put that in context with your statement?

shaz - so what would be the optimum solution for this problem?

[KeptByTheWord]

The fact remains that after World War II, the Jews had no place to go. No country wanted them, not even the US. Thousands of Jews tried to get to the US, and were turned away, and most of them perished under Hitler. Because there was no place for them to go, the state of Israel was created to provide a place for the Jewish refugees to go to after the war. Perhaps the country of Israel would never have existed if the US would have allowed those Jews to come to our shores, but in fact, no country wanted them. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is my understanding of how the country of Israel came to be. For the first time in around 2000 years, this group of people now had a place to call home. And even though they minded their own business, the Arab countries around them would not leave them alone, but attacked them in an effort to wipe them out and destroy them. Miraculous events have taken place throughout all the wars, to the extent that one must look at those things, and believe that the hand of God was involved to protect Israel from the threat of the Arab/Muslim nations.

Because Israel is a democratic nation, and our ally in the Middle East, we have a duty to protect and help that country, much as we would if Britain or France were under attack from a terrorist group.

[crakjak]

No nation or individual should approve of Hamas' murderous actions!!! They not only murder every enemy that they can, they murder their own people. The reason is for their elitist power and money!! They have zero concern for the ordinary folks that live in Gaza.

Israel (whether you believe they are favored by God, at this time or not) is timid and wimpy, period. They should stop listening to their enemies around the world, including John Kerry, and re-occupy Gaza, absolutely destroy Hamas and their underworld dungeon for the elite. Govern Gaza under Israeli law, and secure every border.

Why?? because any nation that does not protect their people and their borders will not be a nation long. Citizens in Israel and the US have a history of FREEDOM, perfect no, but compared to rest of the world there is no contest. We have to be diligent to protect that freedom, both from within and without.

If you go to war, kill the enemy and take ALL the spoils, rebuild the territory only under new leadership of freedom. WWII, example of US, W. Germany and Japan, make enemies friends, nothing else works in this cruel world. The strong rule, if the strong is "righteous" the people rejoice and prosper, if the strong are evil, the people "groan"!! That is just the way this world works today.

The alternative for Israel and the rest of the world is MORE KILLING, the deaths of a thousand cuts, not less.

[Pressing-On]

Anti-Semitic government allows FAA to lift ban on Israel. Guess they couldn't handle the backlash - Good job, American citizens and our good men in office - Louie Gohmert and Ted Cruz!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLyFM...ature=youtu.be

[n david]

Howard Stern: If you’re anti-Israel, then you’re anti-America. It’s the only democracy over there, it’s the only friend we have who’s willing to fight and stand up for what’s right.

I can't post the rest of what he said, cause it's littered with curse words...but it was fantastic!

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