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04-23-2014, 02:57 PM
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Re: Bundy Ranch, BLM, Harry Reid and the Chinese
At the Bundy Ranch: a 'Rosa Parks moment'?
By Alan Keyes
Now there are reports indicating that corrupt motives are at work in the U.S. government's adamant effort to assert its "ownership" of the grazing land used by the Bundy ranch. A case can be made that the U.S. government's management of the land was a form of permanent arbitration, intended to reduce the likelihood that local disputes would lead to violent confrontation. But arbitration makes sense only if the arbitrator is an "honest broker" – i.e., someone who has no prejudicial interest in the outcome. The U.S. government's role is to help manage the land, not to help itself to the land. It is to be managed in the interest of the locals, who are thus acknowledged to own the usufruct – i.e., the right to derive profit or benefit from the property.
http://linkis.com/renewamerica.com/c/oZ9i8
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04-23-2014, 03:02 PM
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Re: Bundy Ranch, BLM, Harry Reid and the Chinese
Questions Raised About Senator Reid’s Connection to Bundy Ranch Dispute
It is important to recognize that the land on which Bundy grazes his cattle is not the same land that ENN sought near Laughlin, which is over 200 miles away. However, the Bundy grazing land is within the BLM's Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone, an area the BLM and DOW also want to use for “utility-scale solar energy development,” whether constructed by ENN or someone else. As blogger and candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives from California’s 8th District Rodney Lee Conover recently wrote:
As part of the plan for the Dry Lake solar zone, any solar developers are expected to pay into a fund to “mitigate” the Gold Butte area. However, the “mitigation” activities can’t take place with cattle grazing in the area. If the mitigation doesn’t take place, no money for the BLM.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...-ranch-dispute
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04-23-2014, 03:06 PM
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Domestic Terrorists at the Bundy Ranch! TNAM’s Blake Walley Interviews The “Dangerous” Group.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUXfKSJt7KM#t=174
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04-23-2014, 03:10 PM
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Why Bundy Ranch Is Just the Beginning
Ben Shapiro
His legal case is problematic; the Bureau of Land Management certainly has jurisdiction over the federal lands on which his cattle graze. But his moral case is significantly stronger: paying taxes to a government that uses those tax dollars to restrict your activities on land your family has worked since the 19th century -- over a turtle, no less -- is sickening stuff. A government squeeze is a government squeeze.
http://townhall.com/columnists/bensh...medium=twitter
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04-23-2014, 03:31 PM
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Re: Bundy Ranch, BLM, Harry Reid and the Chinese
Readers of USA TODAY:
Some have asked why didn't my father pay the grazing fee. This can be understood in two ways. One is founded on preemptive rights and the other upon state rights or state sovereignty. When my family rolled into this country in the 1800's they began to tame the land and use it for survival, settling this land the same as the rest of the United States. Each family claimed their stake and developed the area. Others respected the area and understood as long as the family was using the resources or land it was the families to claim and share. When states were initiated into the union these rights or claims became more defined and further protected by state law as rights that could be sold traded or even borrowed against.
Now after over a hundred years of preemptive rights by beneficial use recognized and protected by the state, the federal government claims that the land is not state land but US territory and theirs for the taking or charging of fees.
So here we stand with a questions. Is this land Nevada State land or US territory? If state land, then my fathers rights are recognized and the federal government has no claim to charge for something that is not theirs. If it is US territory then Nevada is not a sovereign state. Only 11% of Nevada is declared by the federal government to be private or state. The rest they claim as their land to do what they want with and the people of Nevada have no rights to it.
Now more questions; Should the people of Nevada have the right to govern their own state? Why did the federal government retain 89% of Nevada land after statehood? Does the US constitution give the federal government the right to retaining state land? A good study of these questions will answer why Cliven Bundy refuses to pay an entity for something that is not theirs.
Thank you,
Ammon Bundy
This can not be published without permission from Ammon Bundy
Please share this with your friends! My brother wrote this to help people understand.
https://www.facebook.com/bundyranch/...30451930364952
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04-23-2014, 04:03 PM
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Worked 10+ hours yesterday.
Working almost 13 hours today.
Busy, busy week with work and church.
May respond more in depth this weekend.
I stand by every one of my posts.
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04-23-2014, 10:45 PM
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I stand by every one of my posts.
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Make sure you come back with the case that's clear....and the name of the white supremacist person Mack is allegedly chummy with.
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04-24-2014, 10:19 AM
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Cliven Bundy Under Fire for ‘Negro’ Comments, Wondering Whether Blacks Would Be ‘Better Off as Slaves, Picking Cotton’
“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” Bundy said Saturday, according to the Times, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.”
“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he continued. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014...icking-cotton/
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His comments will be lost under the banner of racism, but the question does remain - is the black community better off today? After all, Star Parker, an intelligent black woman, wrote her book entitled "Uncle Sam's Plantation". I read the book and she voiced the same concerns that Bundy has.
We now have a fight to stop charter schools, and school choice - holding minorities hostage. Education is the new civil rights issue of today and the government does nothing to help -keeping people enslaved.
It's pitiful to view Bundy's comments as nothing more than racism. The fact is, Bundy sees the "BIG GOVERNMENT" overreach and is fighting against that but all he will be called now is a racist.
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04-24-2014, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
His comments will be lost under the banner of racism, but the question does remain - is the black community better off today? After all, Star Parker, an intelligent black woman, wrote her book entitled "Uncle Sam's Plantation". I read the book and she voiced the same concerns that Bundy has.
We now have a fight to stop charter schools, and school choice - holding minorities hostage. Education is the new civil rights issue of today and the government does nothing to help -keeping people enslaved.
It's pitiful to view Bundy's comments as nothing more than racism. The fact is, Bundy sees the "BIG GOVERNMENT" overreach and is fighting against that but all he will be called now is a racist.
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IMO, he made a mess of how he worded it. I understand his sentiment, but the way it's worded comes across as racist.
It is true, Planned Parenthood chooses the minority neighborhoods for their abortion clinics. And unfortunately, a disproportionate number of black men are in jails and prisons. Most for petty drug convictions.
Add to that the lack of family structure and especially the father figure, and it's no wonder their struggle and eventual demise.
Were they better off as slaves? No. That's just absurd. Were they better off when the whole family unit was together, working. Absolutely.
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04-24-2014, 12:41 PM
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Re: Bundy Ranch, BLM, Harry Reid and the Chinese
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
His comments will be lost under the banner of racism, but the question does remain - is the black community better off today? After all, Star Parker, an intelligent black woman, wrote her book entitled "Uncle Sam's Plantation". I read the book and she voiced the same concerns that Bundy has.
We now have a fight to stop charter schools, and school choice - holding minorities hostage. Education is the new civil rights issue of today and the government does nothing to help -keeping people enslaved.
It's pitiful to view Bundy's comments as nothing more than racism. The fact is, Bundy sees the "BIG GOVERNMENT" overreach and is fighting against that but all he will be called now is a racist.
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You and this whole fiasco would be hillarious if this wasn't real life!
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