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10-21-2012, 10:06 PM
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They don't?
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Really?
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10-21-2012, 10:07 PM
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Re: Pedophilia in Kansas Church
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The bigger question is what perverse motive is made by discussing the alleged acts. Crimes are alleged until guilty verdict is reached. The scripture doesn't give us the right to judge people in the court of public opinion. The case
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That should be not only for high profile men and women in the organized church system, but also for the lowly saints. Too many saints are destroyed by their peers in addition to the leadership in the court of public opinion also. In any church where people put their finances and time into building a body, who should decide guilty or innocence? The people should. The people should never be left in the dark like they are a bunch of morons who cannot decipher truth. Even the bible says that weightier matters should be taken to the least esteemed of the body. I Corinthians 6 gives us good sound advice how to handle matters in this life.
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More importantly, the victims of the alleged crimes deserve better from the body of Christ. The daggers that are meant for the accused are being twisted into the victims. That should be unacceptable.
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Yes, it should be unacceptable but yet, for the last 30-years I've noticed that Apostolics eat their own...throw them to the wolves...or under the bus. I've never understood that.
And you know why this happens? Because in a dysfunctional church, people think that it is ok to throw others under the bus if another is not a carbon copy of manmade rules. And a church system will always reflect the kind of leadership it has.
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10-21-2012, 10:08 PM
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Every religion should be judged by their best examples, not their worst.
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No one is going to remember that you said this. You're just the resident evil Yukon (U Con).
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10-21-2012, 10:20 PM
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Re: Pedophilia in Kansas Church
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Every religion should be judged by their best examples, not their worst.
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Our religion's best example is Jesus Christ, yet very few of us deny ourselves and take up our Cross in the way Christ told it to us.
We have a hierarchy of leadership when Christ told his disciples that they were all brothers and were not to have anybody to lord over them.
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10-21-2012, 10:38 PM
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Re: Pedophilia in Kansas Church
Amen.
"Every religion should be judged by their best examples, not their worst."
well said
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10-21-2012, 11:43 PM
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Re: Pedophilia in Kansas Church
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Our religion's best example is Jesus Christ, yet very few of us deny ourselves and take up our Cross in the way Christ told it to us.
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Then, there's my point, instead of waiting for others to take up crosses, deny themselves, tote that barge and lift that bail, we should be putting some feet to our faith, and pick up our cross, deny ourselves, and follow His example. I wanted to be part of the Body of Christ, not AA. 
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We have a hierarchy of leadership when Christ told his disciples that they were all brothers and were not to have anybody to lord over them.
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The scriptures teach an eldership of leadership, not some free for all, hippy love in. 
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10-21-2012, 11:49 PM
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Then, there's my point, instead of waiting for others to take up crosses, deny themselves, tote that barge and lift that bail, we should be putting some feet to our faith, and pick up our cross, deny ourselves, and follow His example. I wanted to be part of the Body of Christ, not AA. |
Stop preaching to the choir.
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10-22-2012, 12:28 AM
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Re: Pedophilia in Kansas Church
The scriptures teach an eldership of leadership, not some free for all, hippy love in.
Here's your chance to put which scriptures teach that by chapter and verse.
Me? I say they don't and that ministers teach the "eldership of leadership" and not the scriptures.
But kindly go ahead. Step up who knows I'm wrong. Quote where Jesus taught this in the scriptures.
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Then, there's my point, instead of waiting for others to take up crosses, deny themselves, tote that barge and lift that bail, we should be putting some feet to our faith, and pick up our cross, deny ourselves, and follow His example. I wanted to be part of the Body of Christ, not AA.
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10-22-2012, 12:30 AM
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Re: Pedophilia in Kansas Church
 aintcha
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They don't?
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10-22-2012, 06:20 AM
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Re: Pedophilia in Kansas Church
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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam
The scriptures teach an eldership of leadership, not some free for all, hippy love in.
Here's your chance to put which scriptures teach that by chapter and verse.
Me? I say they don't and that ministers teach the "eldership of leadership" and not the scriptures.
But kindly go ahead. Step up who knows I'm wrong. Quote where Jesus taught this in the scriptures.
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Do you believe in a Papacy?
Jesus sent His disciples out one by one, or two by two?
Also, how many witnesses do you need to put any man to death?
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