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06-07-2012, 05:12 PM
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Re: The Real Delegate Count - it's not over
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The history of judicial appointments alone is enough to prove there is a vast difference in the two political parties and the Presidents of each.
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If either party was working for the constituents, why are we losing our freedoms with each passing legislation? Why are we going deeper and deeper in debt until our financiers decide when to call that debt in?
Explain to me why America is fading and not gaining?
Why are middle class jobs flying overseas?
Why are some unions being formed bypassing Congressional approval?
Why are treaties being formed with the United Nations that will eventually supersede our own Constitution?
It is easy for people who do no research beyond their own comfortable sources to call other people *nuts* and *theorists*.
Joan Veon, a devout Christian Journalist, reported on global documents she has actually read and global meetings she has actually attended. To call her a nut or a theorist is blatantly condescending to her memory and the hard work she has done during her life and all through her illness.
http://www.womensgroup.org/
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06-07-2012, 06:04 PM
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Re: The Real Delegate Count - it's not over
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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?
If either party was working for the constituents, why are we losing our freedoms with each passing legislation? Why are we going deeper and deeper in debt until our financiers decide when to call that debt in?
Explain to me why America is fading and not gaining?
Why are middle class jobs flying overseas?
Why are some unions being formed bypassing Congressional approval?
Why are treaties being formed with the United Nations that will eventually supersede our own Constitution?
It is easy for people who do no research beyond their own comfortable sources to call other people *nuts* and *theorists*.
Joan Veon, a devout Christian Journalist, reported on global documents she has actually read and global meetings she has actually attended. To call her a nut or a theorist is blatantly condescending to her memory and the hard work she has done during her life and all through her illness.
http://www.womensgroup.org/ |
You've made some very good points.
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1Pe 5:6-7 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.
Tit 3:2 To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.
Psa 51:10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.
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06-07-2012, 07:14 PM
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Re: The Real Delegate Count - it's not over
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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?
If either party was working for the constituents, why are we losing our freedoms with each passing legislation? Why are we going deeper and deeper in debt until our financiers decide when to call that debt in?
Explain to me why America is fading and not gaining?
Why are middle class jobs flying overseas?
Why are some unions being formed bypassing Congressional approval?
Why are treaties being formed with the United Nations that will eventually supersede our own Constitution?
It is easy for people who do no research beyond their own comfortable sources to call other people *nuts* and *theorists*.
Joan Veon, a devout Christian Journalist, reported on global documents she has actually read and global meetings she has actually attended. To call her a nut or a theorist is blatantly condescending to her memory and the hard work she has done during her life and all through her illness.
http://www.womensgroup.org/ |
I do plenty of reading and research. Just because I don't subscribe to kooky conspiracy theories does not mean I am uninformed.
Of course there are liberal pacifists who hope to bring us to a "post country state" world (culminating in a one world government). This is seen in the moves by the United Nations proposing to tax developed industrialized nations and giving the proceeds to poor countries. It is also seen with the push for power at the World Court with the eventual aim that a liberal US President will sign on for United States soldiers to be accountable to them. I also see this as a way a "World Court" could inhibit America's right to defend ouselves and our interests by convicting a US President of war crimes, etc should we engage in military action they don't like.
For all of these reasons and more it is important to elect the most conservative candidates who actually have a chance of winning. For this election cycle that is Romney whether you guys like it or not.
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Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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06-07-2012, 08:25 PM
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Re: The Real Delegate Count - it's not over
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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?
If either party was working for the constituents, why are we losing our freedoms with each passing legislation? Why are we going deeper and deeper in debt until our financiers decide when to call that debt in?
Explain to me why America is fading and not gaining?
Why are middle class jobs flying overseas?
Why are some unions being formed bypassing Congressional approval?
Why are treaties being formed with the United Nations that will eventually supersede our own Constitution?
It is easy for people who do no research beyond their own comfortable sources to call other people *nuts* and *theorists*.
Joan Veon, a devout Christian Journalist, reported on global documents she has actually read and global meetings she has actually attended. To call her a nut or a theorist is blatantly condescending to her memory and the hard work she has done during her life and all through her illness.
http://www.womensgroup.org/ |
You are taking the conversation further than this election cycle and I am enjoying your posts!!! Good points! 
Did you see this clip of Rep. Mike Bost from Illinois? LOL! A little language, but he is passionate about our Republic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=PhbRcDZiJJc
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06-07-2012, 08:28 PM
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Re: The Real Delegate Count - it's not over
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For all of these reasons and more it is important to elect the most conservative candidates who actually have a chance of winning. For this election cycle that is Romney whether you guys like it or not.
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I don't think you can honestly use this point and this person in the same sentence. For real. 
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06-07-2012, 08:31 PM
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Re: The Real Delegate Count - it's not over
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If Obama wins this election, it cannot be blamed on people who cannot consciously vote for either nomination. THAT excuse is a strawman excuse. Wanna know why?
It is because the american people have been thoroughly scientifically studied about their habits in every economic issue concerning us. That is why there are mail and phone surveys. The people do not know that they are being studied for future projections of commerce and other economic issues.
I would say that the majority of americans do not study out why they vote for who they vote for. Many people right here in the southeast only vote straight party lines. They do not care who the man is or what he has done in his life. They think that because he is democrat, he is for the health and wealth of the ordinary man, woman and child. Or they think that republican means automatically for big corporation and business. They cannot be more wrong on either issue.
Both of the parties are working for the same people, (not americans but international business. Read the Confessions of an Economic Hitman for details) The only difference between the two is that they go about it in different ways. Ok. For example...currently millions of americans do not have medical insurance. The insurance companies know this and they lobbied Congress for decades. The people have been paying for the uninsured for decades too in the form of rising healthcare costs. The Obama Administration and the democrat controlled congress bullied that healthcare bill into passing. We heard vows of overturning this if we would elect a republican controlled congress. We did. Did they keep that promise? LOL!
Now we hear about how Romney is going to tweak the healthcare bill. I highly doubt it. What we have witnessed with this healthcare bill is that it is mandatory, even though there is growing unemployment and people will not have the money to buy insurance. And we have seen that they mandated the people into commerce, but mislabeled this bill as a Healthcare Reform bill when it really should have been labeled as an Insurance Reform bill because that is all we really have been told what was contained in this bill. So far, the insurance companies are going to be making billions because it is mandatory that the american people dig up a piece of our pie to add to their pie. Somebody please share how Congress is going to "reform" our individual healthcare except to control what kind of healthcare we receive according to our age and severity of illness? That is something that is supposed to be between doctor and patient...but no more. The panel will decide.
You all watch and see. Because of massive unemployment and the inability for people to come up with anywhere between $400-$1000 monthly for insurance, this country will see the single-payer socialized insurance.
I would say ignorance of what each candidate stands for is the main reason why we get who we get in the Oval Office. Many people do not take the time to research except what they see on television or in the newspapers...and much of that is empty promises. One can go to PolitiFact.com and see the stats and explanations. And the fact that once in office, they change their point of view. Obama did about gay marriage, among other things, did he not?
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Agree and the bold points especially!
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06-07-2012, 08:35 PM
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Re: The Real Delegate Count - it's not over
UPDATE:
Massachusetts GOP upholds election of Ron Paul delegates in Mitt Romney’s congressional district
06/06/2012 6:18 PM
The Massachusetts Republican Party’s Allocation Committee has upheld the election of six Paul loyalists who defeated Romney backers at a Fifth Congressional District caucus in April.
http://www.boston.com/politicalintel...3uL/story.html
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Re: The Real Delegate Count - it's not over
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Lawsuit being filed against GOP
urgent: Many of us listened to the incredibly thorough conference call last night and learned about the lawsuit that is being filed on monday (june 11, 2012). For those who missed the call, i urge you to learn about what is happening right now.
Lawyers are working for our cause - without pay - to get a federal court order to order the rnc to allow delegates to vote freely. It is illegal to bind delegates. This is a fact.
They are filing monday, and a 9th circuit judge is extremely likely to rule that all delegates must be unbound according to federal law. This has nothing to do with rule 38 or any hypothetical situation. It is a matter of federal law and the rnc is very much subject to it. The lawyers on the call assured us that this court order will be done before the convention.
http://wtpnetwork.com/blog/35/lawsui...d-against-gop/
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06-07-2012, 09:45 PM
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Re: The Real Delegate Count - it's not over
PO, I won't keep giving you a hard time but I wonder how you are going to cope when your imagined big fight at the convention doesn't happen?
I would be willing to bet the farm, ranch, house, and cars that Romney will be nominated on the first ballot with the Ron Paul Nutters relegated to being the non factors they are.
Oh I am sure CNN and MSNBC will give interviews to the craziest delegates there to make the Republican party look like idiots so that might get the few dissenters some air time!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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06-07-2012, 09:47 PM
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Re: The Real Delegate Count - it's not over
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I do plenty of reading and research. Just because I don't subscribe to kooky conspiracy theories does not mean I am uninformed.
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I posted that both parties are working together to bring in policies that you described below. No difference between the two and who they work for. So...tell me...what is so kooky and what makes that a conspiracy theory if you yourself recognize that this is going in your statement below?
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Originally Posted by CC1
Of course there are liberal pacifists who hope to bring us to a "post country state" world (culminating in a one world government). This is seen in the moves by the United Nations proposing to tax developed industrialized nations and giving the proceeds to poor countries. It is also seen with the push for power at the World Court with the eventual aim that a liberal US President will sign on for United States soldiers to be accountable to them. I also see this as a way a "World Court" could inhibit America's right to defend ouselves and our interests by convicting a US President of war crimes, etc should we engage in military action they don't like.
For all of these reasons and more it is important to elect the most conservative candidates who actually have a chance of winning. For this election cycle that is Romney whether you guys like it or not.
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How do you think that the USA will surrender it's sovereignty over to the United Nations if it were not for our leaders sneakily doing so? It could not happen otherwise, unless they invade us...in which our government would be encouraging gun ownership, have our borders patrolled by our own national guard instead of sending them overseas along with our military. Hmmmm...we got wide open borders that neither conservative Reagan, liberal Clinton, Conservative Bush nor liberal Obama closed or protected...even in the aftermath of the terror of 9/11/01.
Why aren't our borders protected?
Why did conservative Bush call the Arizona minutemen who got together to report illegals crossing the border...vigilantes?
Why is Obama suing Arizona for its immigration laws...the exact same ones that the federal government will not enforce???
How is knowing all of this being a conspiracy nut? It is even reported in mainstream media. People are not paying attention.
How much you want to bet that if Romney got elected, he will not change one iota of the policies Obama put into place? How much you want to bet he will not close our borders and bring our men home?
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