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02-29-2012, 10:14 AM
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Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
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“We know that if we can get a Reagan Democrat in the primary, we can get them in the fall,” said Hogan Gidley, a Santorum spokesman.
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That's laughable. The only reason a Democrat was voting in the GOP primary yesterday was because they were trying to cause problems for the GOP. Santorum's robocall even acknowledged as much. He wanted to send a message to Romney and try to embarrass him.
Gidley should know better than to truly believe that even a Reagan Democrat would vote for someone like Santorum, who is over the top right wing.
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02-29-2012, 10:23 AM
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Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
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Mitt's never been "my boy." He lacks charisma, honest compassion and will be thrashed by the Obama class warfare machine. They'll brand him as the 1%, focus on Baine, and his legal offshore accounts. Unfortunately though, Romney's the only one who could give the President a close run.
Santorum is too far-right for any moderate or independent to vote for. And unless the President begins banning religion, the religious right have a habit of sitting on their posteriors at home while complaining about the state of the country.
I said in a few posts previous that I like Ron Paul. Out of hundreds of politicians, Paul is one of perhaps a very few that hasn't changed his position. He would be the best for civil liberties and keeping the gov't out of our lives. Because of those views, many consider him weak with national security and pulling troops from overseas. So he's not going to win the GOP nomination, which is too bad, because out of the nominees, i think Paul would do the best in a debate against the President. His smackdown of Santorum was one of the best...close to Reagan's against Mondale.
That said, I'll vote for whomever shows up as the GOP nominee.
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I agree with you on Ron Paul and would have voted from him except for "some" of his foreign policy views. We are a global economy, our people are spread out all over the world. There is no way we cannot remain in a pro-defense mode from here until eternity. We are in a global terrorism war and I don't see that ending for decades to come.
I have looked over all the remaining candidates who are carrying baggage and have decided that Newt is the only option available who is able to bring down the liberal media and pivot our country back into the right direction.
If someone with the fortitude that he has, along with a stellar conservative record were in the race, it would be a landslide victory. So, I will take Newt's baggage, conservative policy accomplishments and his guts to work and make change happen over anyone presently in the race.
Lindsey Graham stated they were too hard on Newt when he was Speaker. And I know why the Republicans and Democrats were hard on him - He was doing more and acting more like a President and I don't think they liked it. Hence you had them all go after him on an ethic violation that didn't stick. And, BTW, one that Romney continues to tout as truth - blaggard!
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02-29-2012, 10:29 AM
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Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
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Originally Posted by n david
That's laughable. The only reason a Democrat was voting in the GOP primary yesterday was because they were trying to cause problems for the GOP. Santorum's robocall even acknowledged as much. He wanted to send a message to Romney and try to embarrass him.
Gidley should know better than to truly believe that even a Reagan Democrat would vote for someone like Santorum, who is over the top right wing.
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I don't think that was the only reason. It was for Michael Moore, et al. Of course, the MSM played a few clips to seem as though that was the overall reason for it.
And why would they vote for Romeny when he is Obama's twin? - strict cap and trade, Obamacare/Romneycare, etc. etc.
I've read remarks by a whole lot of liberals that are disappointed in Obama's presidency, (Oprah not campaigning for him again - even Obama's lapdog, Matt Damon, is disappointed ) so, I think that some Democrats would vote against him.
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02-29-2012, 10:35 AM
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Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
4 more years of buying others their appliances, cars and houses.
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
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02-29-2012, 11:04 AM
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Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
4 more years of buying others their appliances, cars and houses.
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I don't know. I think the gas prices and the drilling could be a problem for Obama. His stands against oil production are coming back to haunt him.
He is crowing that we are producing more oil domestically than we have been. That is true, but it is because GW issued more permits for massive expansion in offshore drilling and exploration on federal lands. It is also a result of private and state land being used for horizontal drilling and fracking despite objections from Obama's EPA.
He says that the answer is not in domestic drilling, but it is the answer. Even with his refusal to issue deep water drilling permits, we are slated to produce 2 million barrels of oil per day. That is a 25% increase over the next two years. Canada's production is slated to rise by 1 million barrels, if we can get it to the US over Obama's objections.
A 3 million barrel increase in oil is about a 4% increase in global supply. That increase would make it possible for the US to cut off imports from the nations that hate us. We could be the new Saudi Arabia by 2020, if Obama would get out of the way.
Here is Newt's plan to bring gas prices down:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wk13...layer_embedded
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02-29-2012, 11:45 AM
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Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
I don't think that was the only reason. It was for Michael Moore, et al. Of course, the MSM played a few clips to seem as though that was the overall reason for it.
And why would they vote for Romeny when he is Obama's twin? - strict cap and trade, Obamacare/Romneycare, etc. etc.
I've read remarks by a whole lot of liberals that are disappointed in Obama's presidency, (Oprah not campaigning for him again - even Obama's lapdog, Matt Damon, is disappointed ) so, I think that some Democrats would vote against him.
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I wouldn't hold out hope for that. Santorum has effectively shown liberals and independents how extreme right-wing policy can be. As much as some liberals/independents might be disappointed with President Obama, Santorum has soured them on voting Republican this election cycle.
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02-29-2012, 12:55 PM
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Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
I think Obama is going to win again........just saying.
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02-29-2012, 01:08 PM
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Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
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Originally Posted by Twisp
I wouldn't hold out hope for that. Santorum has effectively shown liberals and independents how extreme right-wing policy can be. As much as some liberals/independents might be disappointed with President Obama, Santorum has soured them on voting Republican this election cycle.
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I don't think the Democratic voting bloc is going to have anything to do with Santorum per se. It will be a host of things. One would be the Catholic Democrats feeling alienated over Obama's contraception mandate. Another will be gas prices, which of course, is about the economy.
When Santorum continues to be vetted, he won't be left standing - embarrassing comments, pro-union, pro-bigger government, pro-GOP Establishment record. He may be a social conservative, but he certainly is not a fiscal conservative.
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02-29-2012, 01:10 PM
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I think Obama is going to win again........just saying.
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So far, it's looking that way. And if he does win again, the GOP will deserve it. Saying, "we lost our way" is just an insane excuse for a party.
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02-29-2012, 05:01 PM
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Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
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Originally Posted by n david
I said in a few posts previous that I like Ron Paul. Out of hundreds of politicians, Paul is one of perhaps a very few that hasn't changed his position. He would be the best for civil liberties and keeping the gov't out of our lives. Because of those views, many consider him weak with national security and pulling troops from overseas. So he's not going to win the GOP nomination, which is too bad, because out of the nominees, i think Paul would do the best in a debate against the President. His smackdown of Santorum was one of the best...close to Reagan's against Mondale.
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This is a very well done ad by Ron Paul.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPRnC...layer_embedded
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