Jerry Falwell

[josh]

Originally Posted by NLYP

Originally Posted by Old Paths View Post
So sad.

JF was a baptist and it looks like he died a baptist.


Didn't I read where he had some Pentecostals evicted from Liberty Bible campus?

Wonder what he thinks now?

How long are you going to dodge this????

What is there to dodge?

Listen, I grieve for the man...and pray for his family. How can you attack OP with such vehemence, even saying he's not a christian????

Do you believe the salvation message of the church you attend??? If so then you should lament Jerry Falwell's stance, too. He was dead set against anyone who spoke with tongues. He refuted the doctrines you claim to preach.

So, what do you really believe???? That he's in heaven?

I know that there are many here who believe Falwell is in heaven and that is consistent with what they believe. It's your attack on OP that has me puzzled.

By the way, I don't rejoice at Falwell's demise. Neither do I pretend he was a great christian leader....or saved. I am deeply saddened by that, too.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by josh

What is there to dodge?

Listen, I grieve for the man...and pray for his family. How can you attack OP with such vehemence, even saying he's not a christian????

Do you believe the salvation message of the church you attend??? If so then you should lament Jerry Falwell's stance, too. He was dead set against anyone who spoke with tongues. He refuted the doctrines you claim to preach.

So, what do you really believe???? That he's in heaven?

I know that there are many here who believe Falwell is in heaven and that is consistent with what they believe. It's your attack on OP that has me puzzled.

By the way, I don't rejoice at Falwell's demise. Neither do I pretend he was a great christian leader....or saved. I am deeply saddened by that, too.

Good question...this is sort of like the pot and kettle issue...lol or maybe he never heard two wrongs don't make a right.

It's a sad thing when a person dies. JF himself said he was a Baptist and that he didn't believe in tongues, didn't believe baptism was necessary. That right there is enough to judge a person by. Now the question is; is it I doing the judging or has not the word of God already judged such a person on his actions?

BTW the word Christian was first used to identify those that obeyed acts 2:38 not people who live a moral life. How can one be a christian and not have Christ. There is only one way to have Christ.
You can read it in Acts 11:24-26 NLYP

[lisafitzh2o]

Originally Posted by josh

What is there to dodge?

Listen, I grieve for the man...and pray for his family. How can you attack OP with such vehemence, even saying he's not a christian????

Do you believe the salvation message of the church you attend??? If so then you should lament Jerry Falwell's stance, too. He was dead set against anyone who spoke with tongues. He refuted the doctrines you claim to preach.

So, what do you really believe???? That he's in heaven?

I know that there are many here who believe Falwell is in heaven and that is consistent with what they believe. It's your attack on OP that has me puzzled.

By the way, I don't rejoice at Falwell's demise. Neither do I pretend he was a great christian leader....or saved. I am deeply saddened by that, too.

Thanks, Josh....I was thinking the same thing.

All I know is, when James Wolfe pastored in Lynchburg, Jerry Fallwell put him through hell on earth -- trying to keep that church from growing.

I feel sorry for his family, though...I know what it is like to receive shocking news like that.

[Sarah]

I'm sorry for JF's death, and I pray for his family. He was very conservative in a lot of political areas.

I didn't see anything wrong in Old Path's post. Like NLYP, he's very blunt in his writing. You pretty much know where they both stand on many issues. I'm puzzed that Dan is even surprised at OP's post.

Some of our young people were looking to attend Bible college at one time, so they were on many college's mailing list. They got one from Liberty College, and it plainly said if you believe in speaking in tongues, we strongly suggest you go to another school. So I guess he was against the Pentecostal belief.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Or maybe YOU are confused since you started this vein off by saying King was both a politician and a preacher...now you say he is NOT a politician but a political activist?

pol·i·ti·cian (pŏl'ĭ-tĭsh'ən) Pronunciation Key
n.

1. 1. One who is actively involved in politics, especially party politics.
   2. One who holds or seeks a political office.
2. One who seeks personal or partisan gain, often by scheming and maneuvering: "Mothers may still want their favorite sons to grow up to be President, but . . . they do not want them to become politicians in the process" (John F. Kennedy).
3. One who is skilled or experienced in the science or administration of government.

My poor Praxeas ... if we are to use your definition of politician ... then MLK was a politician ...

Some examples:

1956 King speaks before the platform committee of the Democratic National Convention in Chicago, recommending a strong civil rights plank in the party platform.


1965
August - December
In Alabama, SCLC spearheads voter registration campaigns in Green and Wilcox counties, and in the cities of Montgomery, Birmingham, and Eutaw, Alabama.


1966 -
Spring
Dr. King tours Alabama to help elect black candidates.
The Alabama Primary is held, and for the first time since Reconstruction, blacks vote in significant numbers.

[SDG]

MLK was a political activist helping end segregation ... his other causes involved ....voter registration, anti-war protests, poverty.

JF ...was also a political activist .... who also led voter registration drives, fought against same-sex marriages, abortion and the de-Christianization of America.

[SDG]

Interestingly enough there is a staunch PAJCer from this forum ... who is enrolled at Liberty College

[ILG]

I feel for his family and pray for them. Beats me where he went. Guess I'll leave that up to God!

[FRINGE_NUTTER]

Here's the FRINGE_NUTTER's 2 cents:

I do not believe that the diatribe against OP's question is justified.

Maybe "Wonder what he thinks now?" was the not the most appropriate thing to say at this time, but certainly OP does not deserve to be told that he is acting unChristian.

If any of us who believe in speaking in tongues applied to his unversity, he would not even allow us to attend. He may have taken some correct stances on abortion and helped Ronald Reagan and other conservatives to win political offices, but how can anyone who preaches Acts 2:38 hold him in such high esteem?

Let's pray for his family and stop attacking each other.

That's the FRINGE_NUTTER's two cents.