Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church? - Page 14

TGBTG · #**131** 08-03-2011, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Nothing wrong with someone wanting to use 10% as a guide or standard to go off but this stuff about not giving tithes is robbing God and going to hell is so far off in error.

I did not state that...

High & Low · #**132** 08-03-2011, 03:59 PM

What are we to tithe? 10% of our paycheck every week? 10% of whatever God has blessed us with? To me, the scripture is clear that we are no longer REQUIRED to Tithe...that Law was done away with at the Cross. Jesus became our High Priest. So Malachi 3:8 does not apply to us. Abraham and Jacob tithed...question is, is their tithing a principle for us today, which mixes in with the whole NT teachings of giving....According to Scripture, Abraham never tithed from his income, and Jacob tithed from what God blessed him with...(we can't assume Jacob may have never tithed because it was never mentioned after Genesis 28:24...why would God inspire Moses or whomever to write that, if in fact Jacob never ended up fulfilling that vow).

1. What are we to tithe from (income, blessings)??
2. Is that tithe considered cheerfully giving as taught in the NT?

Aquila · #**133** 08-03-2011, 04:02 PM

Think about it. If you sold idols or false doctrine all your life and suddenly a Paul came to you and told you about the truth.... it would take a very special individual to forsake their very livelihood for Christ. The silversmiths provoked the city to a riot because their idol making trade was in danger.

It's still the same today.

TGBTG · #**134** 08-03-2011, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by High & Low

What are we to tithe? 10% of our paycheck every week? 10% of whatever God has blessed us with? To me, the scripture is clear that we are no longer REQUIRED to Tithe...that Law was done away with at the Cross. Jesus became our High Priest. So Malachi 3:8 does not apply to us. Abraham and Jacob tithed...question is, is their tithing a principle for us today, which mixes in with the whole NT teachings of giving....According to Scripture, Abraham never tithed from his income, and Jacob tithed from what God blessed him with...(we can't assume Jacob may have never tithed because it was never mentioned after Genesis 28:24...why would God inspire Moses or whomever to write that, if in fact Jacob never ended up fulfilling that vow).

1. What are we to tithe from (income, blessings)??
2. Is that tithe considered cheerfully giving as taught in the NT?

This is why Christianity is not a set of rules. You as an individual, if you are not sure, should ask the Lord what you should give.

Even if you don't agree with tithing, a christian should have a giving spirit. The whole gospel is based on God giving us his Son. We ought also to give our all, not just our money.

For me, I give tithes of my income because that is the only form I know if wherein I am increased with goods.

Again, I use Prov 3:9 as a principle

Truthseeker · #**135** 08-03-2011, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TGBTG

I did not state that...

Yeah, I know. Addressing them that do

TGBTG · #**136** 08-03-2011, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Yeah, I know. Addressing them that do

Ha...ok

Question for all:

Do Pastors that take tithes from their member also tithe? Since the Levites were supposed to give 10% of the tithes they receive, I was wondering if these Pastors also follow this principle?

RandyWayne · #**137** 08-03-2011, 04:20 PM

Of course in our old church a 10% tithe was considered mandatory, no ifs ands or buts. Anything above that was an "offering" which incidentally was preached should be 5%. So in reality anything above 15% was considered TRUE giving, which of course you were expected to do.....

TGBTG · #**138** 08-03-2011, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Of course in our old church a 10% tithe was considered mandatory, no ifs ands or buts. Anything above that was an "offering" which incidentally was preached should be 5%. So in reality anything above 15% was considered TRUE giving, which of course you were expected to do.....

Matt 15:9
"...teaching for doctrines the commandments of men"

Jacob's Ladder · #**139** 08-03-2011, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

As the old black preacher preached on the radio - "You will slide straight to hell on the thin dime you steal outta God's Dollar!"

I do believe that you rob God of what belongs to Him when you do not tithe.

Robbers in the House of God!
I am not going to argue about it - just stating facts according to God's Word.

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Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder

Atlanta,

How did tithing transition from harvest product and cattle (biblical tithing) to money?

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

You guys should go do something productive instead of trying to convince people that they should not tithe. Go get someone saved or healed and stop preaching to the choir!

2 Tim. 2:16 "But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. KJV

The Message 2 Tim:14-18 Repeat these basic essentials over and over to God's people. Warn them before God against pious nitpicking, which chips away at the faith. It just wears everyone out. Concentrate on doing your best for God, work you won't be ashamed of, laying out the truth plain and simple. Stay clear of pious talk that is only talk. Words are not mere words, you know. If they're not backed by a godly life, they accumulate as poison in the soul. Hymenaeus and Philetus are examples, throwing believers off stride and missing the truth by a mile by saying the resurrection is over and done with.

You guys don't intimidate me and I am not required to give an answer to you. You will answer to God for your deception and rebellion against His Word!

Just what I thought!

Typical answer for someone with no clue for what they practice.

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

You guys don't intimidate me and I am not required to give an answer to you. You will answer to God for your deception and rebellion against His Word!

Who's trying to intimidate you? I was just asking for answers, which is biblical. But all of a sudden I'm in rebellion for questioning something! Run from the question all you want!

THE FACT IS EVERYONE WHO VIEWS THIS THREAD WILL SEE YOU COULDN'T ANSWER A SIMPLE QUESTION. WHAT DOES THIS SHOW PEOPLE? YOU CAN'T VALIDATE WHAT YOU PREACH! UTTERLY SAD!

......and you're a Bishop too, eh? ....double sad....

Here's the question for all the viewers directed to Atlanta "Bishop." How did tithing transition from harvest product and cattle (biblical tithing) to money?

I'll be waiting.

Aquila · #**140** 08-03-2011, 05:28 PM

The baptist church I attend doesn't mandate tithing, but rather budgetting a regular offering. We ALWAYS come ready to give something. We have over 2000 members, a massive campus, paid staff, and over 100 house churches. About seven years ago, they started as about 25 people in a school gym! God is good. If only these tiny and bound up legalistic churches could really get the truth and live by faith! GOD WOULD BLESS THEM!