The end is at hand!!!!!!!!!

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by notofworks

I guess we'll understand it better by and by?

I wonder if Timmy is a terrorist, an agnosterest, a post-tribber, or an annihilation-of-the-wicked guy?

One of these days Timmy is going to tell us the true definition of apostolic!

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by notofworks

But this would seem to insinuate that if a person starved, they didn't have enough faith. But in Hebrews 11, we see that many were destitute, yet they were specifically labeled as people with great faith....enough to be mentioned in scripture.

Amen and amen! I agree totally. Some with faith escape and others with faith persevere and do not materially prosper. Both occur. I did not intend to insinuate otherwise.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Timmy

I'll need EB to figure it out for me.

There are several things EB has helped me figure out, none of which I can say on the forum!

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Let's not be so wooden about the interpretation. I do not think flesh is reanimated if it has turned to dust as though the dust is reassembled from parts of planes and cars and trucks to see those things fall apart when the rapture occurs like some UPCI ministers whom I know preached it years ago. The overall point is not reanimation, but rather PHYSICAL rising. God can make an immortal body for someone from NOTHING, but the point in 1 Cor 15 is that it is physical as Jesus' was. Do not miss the forest for the trees.

Many do teach the flesh will literally be changed.


If the old flesh is not used then what is physically be resurrected??

When we die do we not go to God?

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Amen and amen! I agree totally. Some with faith escape and others with faith persevere and do not materially prosper. Both occur.

......which makes me DESPISE "Christian" broadcast groups that systematically require us all to greatly possess things. I'm sorry, but I really, really do see TBN as absolutely against the nature of God. I believe they've done more to damage the gospel of Jesus Christ than the previous couple of centuries combined.

But I guess that's another thread.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by jfrog

One of these days Timmy is going to tell us the true definition of apostolic!

I can already tell you that. A true apostolic is Pope Benedict the 83rd (or whatever the number is).

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Many do teach the flesh will literally be changed.

I still say it will for those whose bodies are still intact in the earth.

If the old flesh is not used then what is physically be resurrected??

I already said that a physical body can be made by the Lord from nothing, but a physical body is the overall point of the prophecy. ("With what body do they rise?") A body is a CONTAINER of soul and spirit. The container cannot be the containee. The BODY is a house. It HOUSES. If the new body is SPIRIT, then how can a SPIRIT HOUSE anything?

When we die do we not go to God?

We go in soul and spirit, but not body. That is why 2 Cor 5 says we are naked outside the body before it says we are absent from the body when we die. The context can only convey the thought, therefore, that for a time our state of being in nakedness until resurrection, but the resurrection will see us CLOTHED.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by notofworks

I can already tell you that. A true apostolic is Pope Benedict the 83rd (or whatever the number is).

haha. That reminds me of my days on this one chat program. I had the nick apostolickid_13 (or 15... I can't remember what number it was beside it.) But I went into a catholic room one time and the guy says "its good to see young people who believe in apostolic succession." And I'm going ??????????????????????????????????????????

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by jfrog

haha. That reminds me of my days on this one chat program. I had the nick apostolickid_13 (or 15... I can't remember what number it was beside it.) But I went into a catholic room one time and the guy says "its good to see young people who believe in apostolic succession. And I'm going ??????????????????????????????????????????

Seriously funny.

I just love it when pentecostals think they have a monopoly on the word, when the catholics have owned it since Peter was first sworn in as the first pope!!

[Timmy]