If they aren't active in their proclivity toward the same gender, and it's not manifesting itself or influence into the children, that's a whole lot different than a child having two "daddy's"
Jeff, do you understand what parenting skills are? It's got NOTHING to do with your sexual orientation, in spite of what you keep saying. You are bringing in external situations and tying them into being a parent, but that's totally different than anything I've been trying to say.
My being a great cook doesn't make me a better parent than the person who burns boiling water.
My being good at math doesn't make me a better parent than someone who can't add more than two digits.
My being a nurse doesn't make me a better parent than a garbage man.
My being overweight doesn't make me a better parent than someone who is thin and exercises constantly.
My talkativeness doesn't make me a better parent than someone who is quiet.
My assertiveness doesn't make me a better parent than someone who is passive.
Now, do these external qualities I possess affect my children? Well, it should! Who we are affects everyone around us, but just because we possess those things doesn't make us a better or worse parent than someone who doesn't.
Still clearer than mud? LOL!
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I have seen huge differences when their is no real father/daddy in the family unit. Differences that make for rebellious out of control children.
I've seen rebellious out of control children that come from pastor's homes.
However, there is truth to your statement, and we see the results in the prisons today. However, there is also the lack of parenting by the mother (usually because they want to place blame on the father for not being there) that results in the child turning out that way. I think the combination of both factors is what makes the child the way they are. Women aren't known for their assertiveness and discipline.
I'm not that kind of woman. LOL!
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I had a single parent. So much for your "you can't talk unless your in my shoes" argument, which sometimes doesn't really matter. The evidence is mounting from the mouth of single parents, that while they fill-in for fatherly duties, they are in no way offering the true paternal influence that children need. This is why divorce wasn't God's plan, but we make it work the best we can, and pray God helps us raise up children in love with Jesus anyway.
That's the point I was trying to make. In some ways, I have been a father to my children but in some ways, it's also impossible. My mother had to do the same thing.
However, the way you see things is quite different when you are a child living it and when you are an adult going through it. I didn't understand the things my mother went through until I went through them myself.
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I disagree. yes a single parent can do it, but something will be lacking. A father can't be a mom and vice versa.
Absolutely. I'm thankful that my children had other people in their lives that filled the role their own father refused to fill. I never had a father figure growing up, and I think that factor alone was quite detrimental as I grew up.
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You see 'parenting skills' as compartmentalized (provide, says 'I love you", attends the soccer game, etc) and not holistic (the non-verbal, non-actions, modeling which shapes much of what children become, the spiritual component, values taught, worldview, etc). That's a problem.
Perhaps that's it.
Then again, I've been successful at living a different life than what my children have seen very often. I don't believe that affected my parenting skills in any way.
For instance, many years ago, I smoked, but my kids didn't know. Yet I taught them that smoking was bad, and to this day, they don't smoke. That might not be the case had they known I smoked. I protected my children very much throughout their lives. There is a lot they don't know and never will. But again, that doesn't affect my parenting skills.
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Absolutely. I'm thankful that my children had other people in their lives that filled the role their own father refused to fill. I never had a father figure growing up, and I think that factor alone was quite detrimental as I grew up.
Right, My wife has a mother touch I could never duplicate. If i was single I would try to cover all the bases but would still be lacking on the estrogen side of things. that was my point earlier.
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So then, at least let me understand reach agreement with you on something you keep denying, despite saying it. Do you not believe there is any difference between a heterosexual couple and a homosexual couple with regard to child-rearing? Yes? No?
Parenting is not "parenting skills." A skill is a tool used. But parenting is much more broad, as I've stated in my previous posts. I don't think your dense, but I do believe your position to be naive.
I'm so far behind in this thread I'll never die. LOL!
To your question above, the answer is yes. It's the same answer I would give had you substituted 'single parent' for 'homosexual couple'.
The rest I'll have to get back to you on later. I have to leave for a bit. Moving bites!!
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I didn't say that lifestyle had no bearing, I said that lifestyle doesn't affect the parenting skills one possesses.
I know people who were hetero and had children, and then decided to look the other direction. However, they remain wonderful parents. Their ways of parenting their children didn't change with their lifestyle.
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