What's the difference?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

You're inability to drop your hate and truly have an honest conversation is on you, not me.

Hate? I don't hate.

Originally Posted by Aquila

He has let men with beards preach on the platform. It's not a "prohibition". Most are guest speakers.

Originally Posted by Aquila

His brother has a beard and has preached there several times.

His brother. Okay.

So this Pastor has a "request" of which the men in the church he Pastors both respect and comply. But his brother with a beard has preached there.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

How about imagine that it is just another drug, in a more pure from. Just imagine that Big Pharma is using you to broadcast their fables. Just imagine.

Big Pharma is actually opposed to legalization of MM.

What you refuse to take into consideration is that we have had marijuana for a long time. Other drugs which have been around just as long have been used in the medical field. Yet, you are now hearing these stories not because this drug is any better than any other. But because it is all propaganda to legalize just another substance. Read Brave New World, it is being lived out right in front of you. These drugs will only help the elite do as they ver well please. While they step over our bodies.

The elite want them to remain illegal. It helps fuel the private prison industry, gain funding for police departments, locks people into having to rely on prescription meds produced by Big Pharma.

They certainly don't want you growing your own medicine. That would bring far too much... freedom.

Listen the reason why they are unpopular is because they don't work. You keep beating your tin drum and we have already been there. It doesn't work, we prove it over and over, and you keep giving us the same old story.

Not only do they not work, but the side effects are just as bad or worse than the symptoms they take the medications to treat.

Well, if we are getting honesty going here, then you can admit that this forum is known for lynch the pastor. I have never seen so many one sided stories concerning the ministry in my life. Also critiques by some who have never led or pastored a church. It gets kinda old reading the same old stupidity when it comes to the ministry.

Yes, I agree. Pastors do get roasted around here. But if you pay close attention to what is being said, nothing being said would even apply to loving pastors who are grounded in the Word. Any pastor who is not grounded in the Word is just another idol shepherd. Roast 'em.

Because the majority of what he wants is no beards.

No beards on the platform because that is what he wants.

And as a pastor, he is within bounds to request what he desires. What I love about him is that he owns it. He has never tried to argue that the Bible is against beards or even that the Bible gives him authority to mandate that men shave or go to Hell. He's a good man.

Share opinion is what he would prefer from the group.

Yep. And everyone is in the know. No booming unbiblical threats are issued from some puny man behind a curtain.

Because they are in agreement and they love him.

Amen.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

Hate? I don't hate.

If you hated, would you know it? If you don't hate, why do you distort what's being told to you?

His brother. Okay.

Yep, the nepotism thing annoys me too sometimes.

So this Pastor has a "request" of which the men in the church he Pastors both respect and comply. But his brother with a beard has preached there.

Again, no, no, no, no.

He requests that the regular team on the platform be clean shaven. Guest speakers, his brother, those who testify in the mic, are perfectly welcome, even if they have a beard. There is no prohibition. And, the men in the congregation wear beards without any negative feed back. As he puts it, he has a vision regarding the look and feel of his ministry. So, he requests that those who serve on the platform be clean shaven. No prohibition. No excuses equating beards with the tentacles of the Cthulu. No threats of Hell. No saying, "I'm the Pope, I can make up all the rules of your spiritual life as I go, based merely on my opinion, so... if you disagree with me, you'll burn." None of that spiritually immature and foolish nonsense.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

And as a pastor, he is within bounds to request what he desires.

Well, this is interesting.

Here's an excerpt of a post I made a few months ago:

Originally Posted by n david

Here's the deal, and I know you won't like it, but it is what it is so deal with it: if a Pastor wants to have a dress code for those participating on the platform there is nothing wrong with doing so. In fact, and you're really not going to like this, he doesn't have to have scripture and verse to do so. Period. End of story.

You took issue with that statement and proceeded to wax elephant about how wrong I was for saying a Pastor was within his role to (I'll use your word, since you like it more) "request" men shave.

Here was your response back then:

Originally Posted by Aquila

You just made the case that Apostolic pastors don't have to teach a way of life grounded in Scripture.

So which is this, Aquila? Is this you "playing the devil's advocate?" Or is this you being "multifaceted?"

Because what you just posted is a complete turnaround from what you slammed my Pastor and others over a few months ago.

Then: NO right or role to request anything other than what is expressly written in the Bible. "Man's tradition," and all that stuff.

Now: "As a pastor, he is within bounds to request what he desires."

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

He requests that the regular team on the platform be clean shaven.

Originally Posted by Aquila

And as a pastor, he is within bounds to request what he desires.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Guest speakers, his brother, those who testify in the mic, are perfectly welcome, even if they have a beard.

Originally Posted by Aquila

He requests that the regular team on the platform be clean shaven.

smh

[Evang.Benincasa]

Chris how many people use your membership here?

Is that even allowed?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

He requests that the regular team on the platform be clean shaven.

Originally Posted by Aquila

And as a pastor, he is within bounds to request what he desires.

Thanks for that. I needed a laugh today. Didn't need the whiplash from the sudden 180 you made, but the laugh was good.

[berkeley]

I know a lawyer...

Originally Posted by n david

Thanks for that. I needed a laugh today. Didn't need the whiplash from the sudden 180 you made, but the laugh was good.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Big Pharma is actually opposed to legalization of MM.

Really? Based on what?

Originally Posted by Aquila

The elite want them to remain illegal.

Multibillion dollar industry? Elite doesn't want to make money?

Originally Posted by Aquila

It helps fuel the private prison industry, gain funding for police departments, locks people into having to rely on prescription meds produced by Big Pharma.

Again, this is all based on what?

Originally Posted by Aquila

They certainly don't want you growing your own medicine. That would bring far too much... freedom.

You ever grow weed? I don't mean one of two plants. I mean enough to be able to smoke. Chris, where do you get such information?

Originally Posted by Aquila

Not only do they not work, but the side effects are just as bad or worse than the symptoms they take the medications to treat.

Marijuana has bad side effects. Why on earth do you think we call it DOPE.

Sweet, sweet, love of God!!!!!!

Where do you get such ideas???

Originally Posted by Aquila

Yes, I agree. Pastors do get roasted around here.

Which is wrong, which is unfair because they are not here to defend themselves. Also the stories are mostly fabricated and one sided.

Originally Posted by Aquila

But if you pay close attention to what is being said, nothing being said would even apply to loving pastors who are grounded in the Word. Any pastor who is not grounded in the Word is just another idol shepherd. Roast 'em.

You don't have the right to roast em. You can roast me, because I'm here and ready to take on all players. But some brother who isn't available to defend himself is kinda cowardice on the part of the roaster. Don't you agree?

Originally Posted by Aquila

And as a pastor, he is within bounds to request what he desires.

I'm kinda confused here. Roast'em if they are not in the Word as you have interpreted it. Combined with he is within his bounds as he so desires? Which is which?

Originally Posted by Aquila

What I love about him is that he owns it. He has never tried to argue that the Bible is against beards or even that the Bible gives him authority to mandate that men shave or go to Hell. He's a good man.

Yet, he is still in his bounds to make you shave? Whatever.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Yep. And everyone is in the know. No booming unbiblical threats are issued from some puny man behind a curtain.

Bro, no minister is threatening anyone in their congregation. That is the mantra of at www.LoisHatesYou.com.

[Amanah]

I like this new mellow Aquila