Supreme Court to Hear Case on Obama

[coadie]

Originally Posted by oletime

hey twisp, read post 122, originally posted by a retired dhs agent. it spells it out plain and simple with docs. he is kenyan, he cant be hawiain[sp] because his mother didnt live there for 5 years after her 14th birthday, period. he has certification of live birth, not a certificate of live birth, big difference. he is a fraud plain and simple.

Twisp is apparently an Obama drone troll

She was under the age of 18
Dad, barack Obama 1 was a foreignor.

He went to school in Indonesia confirmed as a non citizen.

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by coadie

Twisp is apparently an Obama drone troll

She was under the age of 18
Dad, barack Obama 1 was a foreignor.

He went to school in Indonesia confirmed as a non citizen.

It doesn't matter. It can not be established that he was ever a citizen of Indonesia. He was born in Hawaii, which has been established, which makes him a US citizen. Doesn't matter about his parents. He was born in the US. This is all known information, easily verifiable. Just a few key strokes away from you, if you are inclined to become informed.

The burden of proof is on the accuser. We are still waiting on some from you birthers.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Twisp

Lol, so I guess the Civil Rights Act of 1886 declaring that "all persons born in the United States not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed" were citizens of the United States doesn't apply to Obama?

The qualifications you are trying to bring up apply to someone born outside of the United States, which has no bearing on Obama. He was born in the United States. This has been proven by his birth certificate, birth announcements in newspapers, and individuals in Honolulu, along with numerous other facts.

As for his birth certificate, my wife's birth certificate says "Certification of Live Birth" as well. It does not use the phrasing "birth certificate" on it anywhere. She was born in TN. Apparently it is not a big difference.

You seem to be stubborn. And off topic.
This comes from increedibly many posts which you intentionally can't follow the spell out the issues.

Intentional ignorance is the liberal self justified mind. (see biden)

His birth was to non citizens. She by reason of being under age and married to a foreignor.

We do not base laws on your personal claims

No one has seen or asked for your COLB



The Definition of citizenship and requirements for President are specific. The Gov of California is legal but Praise the LORD, we know he can't bring his disease to Washington as a Pres. He is financial disaster like Obama and a shame to republicans.

Twisp.
If Obama is so in favor of abortion, why would I expect him or his drones to be honest about his records? He is dishonest about his voting records and those are recorded.

Most citizens born in the U.s. are not elgible to hold the office of the President. Citizenship is not enough.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Twisp

It doesn't matter. It can not be established that he was ever a citizen of Indonesia. He was born in Hawaii, which has been established, which makes him a US citizen. Doesn't matter about his parents. He was born in the US. This is all known information, easily verifiable. Just a few key strokes away from you, if you are inclined to become informed.

The burden of proof is on the accuser. We are still waiting on some from you birthers.

You are wrong again.

Another false hood. If we find a document that shows he is a citizen or both his parents were citizens, we can and have proven he was one. There are several ways it can be proven. One includes an Indonesian passport in his name. We do have a school record where it is written that he is indonesian. Soeter was indonesian. Having Indonesian citizenship could easily be on one or more school records he keeps hidden.

Criminals hide incriminating documents. You can't prove you ate lunch 2 days ago.

You seem to have a compromised ethics liberal mind. Lies are lies whether they are proven or not. a murderor is a murderor whether he is caught or is not caught. Obama has demonstrated he will lie about hospital of birth. snopes and yourself go along with it. Now all three have been impeached as being NON credible witnesses.

Actually Obama has been in Pakistan at a time in which U.S. citizens were NOT allowed to travel there. We have reason to believe he was in possession of a non american passport and entered using it.

This is an illegal move on his part and we know that is what you like about him. You are supportive and get very defensive. (this is very unhealthy attachement)

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by coadie

You seem to be stubborn. And off topic.
This comes from increedibly many posts which you intentionally can't follow the spell out the issues.

Intentional ignorance is the liberal self justified mind. (see biden)

His birth was to non citizens. She by reason of being under age and married to a foreignor.

We do not base laws on your personal claims

No one has seen or asked for your COLB

It doesn't matter if his birth was to non-citizens. It is the same issue with illegal immigrants. They come here and have children. The children are US citizens since they were born here (this is merely an example, please do not go off on another tangent like the abortion issue. I suspect that you are merely trying to hide the fact that you are wrong and we know it).

Originally Posted by coadie

The Definition of citizenship and requirements for President are specific.

Yes, the definition of citizenship and requirements for the Presidential office are specific. President Obama has met them, thus he was allowed to run for the presidency.

Originally Posted by coadie

The Gov of California is legal but Praise the LORD, we know he can't bring his disease to Washington as a Pres. He is financial disaster like Obama and a shame to republicans.

The governor cannot be president because he was not born here. That is an established fact. Obama was born here. That is an established fact. It is fairly simple to follow. His and Obama's case is not apples to apples.

Originally Posted by coadie

Twisp.
If Obama is so in favor of abortion, why would I expect him or his drones to be honest about his records? He is dishonest about his voting records and those are recorded.

Please provide citations of him being dishonest about his voting records. Based on your previous actions, I know you will probably not. It never hurts to ask, however.

Originally Posted by coadie

Most citizens born in the U.s. are not elgible to hold the office of the President. Citizenship is not enough.

You are correct, citizenship is not the only requirement.

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by coadie

You are wrong again.

Another false hood. If we find a document that shows he is a citizen or both his parents were citizens, we can and have proven he was one. There are several ways it can be proven. One includes an Indonesian passport in his name. We do have a school record where it is written that he is indonesian. Soeter was indonesian. Having Indonesian citizenship could easily be on one or more school records he keeps hidden.

Criminals hide incriminating documents. You can't prove you ate lunch 2 days ago.

You seem to have a compromised ethics liberal mind. Lies are lies whether they are proven or not. a murderor is a murderor whether he is caught or is not caught. Obama has demonstrated he will lie about hospital of birth. snopes and yourself go along with it. Now all three have been impeached as being NON credible witnesses.

Actually Obama has been in Pakistan at a time in which U.S. citizens were NOT allowed to travel there. We have reason to believe he was in possession of a non american passport and entered using it.

This is an illegal move on his part and we know that is what you like about him. You are supportive and get very defensive. (this is very unhealthy attachement)

No offense, but I think you had a slight lapse in reading comprehension.

Since you have not provided any proof that he was a citizen of another country, that phrase meant that it cannot be currently proven that he was a citizen of Indonesia.

Of course it could be proven that he was if the correct documents were revealed. It could also be proven that he was an alien from Mars if an alien from Mars landed on Earth and told us he was.

I don't think either is going to happen.

As far as Pakistan, he was able to legally travel there in 1981. The US issued a travel advisory for Pakistan that year, meaning US citizens were allowed to travel there. Again, this is a misconception you could have corrected by researching before you posted further misinformation.

[coadie]

The now infamous document posted on Stop the Smears and the DailyKOS, which has been determined to be a forgery by no fewer than three court certified Forensic Document Examiners, was a Certification of Live Birth and NOT a Certificate of Live Birth or Birth Certificate. However, in an effort to obfuscate the issue, the term "Birth Certificate" has been used interchangeably with "Certification of Live Birth".

Assuming that Mr. Obama has a legitimate Certification of Live Birth, the question must be asked: "Why post a forgery?" The answer is as follows:

We have Snopes using the second fakes and false claims.

I do understand in this forgery case Obama has a motive.

Most records go into permanant storage from hospitals. Most hospitals back then started using Bell & Howell for micro film renditions of originals.

I repeat the Computer generated fake on line is not an original
Not a hospital original
not a picture from microfilm

Twisp needs to be reminded every 5 posts that the real deal has a hospital name or two and signature to make it be called certified.
Then it must have a raised seal.

The Chicago way. Leave no paper trail.

Obama used and sold narcotics as a youth and needs to have that considered as to his ethics and honesty.

Why post a forgery?
Why defend posting a forgery?

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by coadie

We have Snopes using the second fakes and false claims.

I do understand in this forgery case Obama has a motive.

Most records go into permanant storage from hospitals. Most hospitals back then started using Bell & Howell for micro film renditions of originals.

I repeat the Computer generated fake on line is not an original
Not a hospital original
not a picture from microfilm

Twisp needs to be reminded every 5 posts that the real deal has a hospital name or two and signature to make it be called certified.
Then it must have a raised seal.

The Chicago way. Leave no paper trail.

Obama used and sold narcotics as a youth and needs to have that considered as to his ethics and honesty.

Why post a forgery?
Why defend posting a forgery?

Lol, coadie needs to be reminded every post to provide source links. coadie also needs to be reminded that the signature and an embossed seal is on the back of Obama's birth certificate. Again, coadie could find this information if he cared about accuracy. As he has proven, he does not.

Of course it is not the hospital original. No one is saying it is. It is the one the hospital provided him upon his request.

[coadie]

Michelle Malkin gives readers a great read — and a handy reference guide — in Culture of Corruption: Obama and His Team of Tax Cheats, Crooks, and Cronies. As David Freddoso’s The Case Against Barack Obama outlined Obama’s shady political connections and provided a history for American voters that the media mostly refused to cover.

I read Freddoso's book last year. It is interesting to see Obama's corrupt tactics.

[gloryseeker]

Originally Posted by Twisp

Lol, coadie needs to be reminded every post to provide source links. coadie also needs to be reminded that the signature and an embossed seal is on the back of Obama's birth certificate. Again, coadie could find this information if he cared about accuracy. As he has proven, he does not.

Of course it is not the hospital original. No one is saying it is. It is the one the hospital provided him upon his request.

Twisp, you need to bow out....the more Coadie talks the more your arguments looks foolish