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Old 05-05-2009, 12:11 PM
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Re: Breaking news

This is lenghty but it is interesting.
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Old 05-05-2009, 06:37 PM
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Re: Breaking news

This is childish, is it not? Your finite mind can not articulate an argument against the Preterit's position, so you stoop to slander. Amazing.
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Old 05-08-2009, 07:46 AM
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Re: Breaking news

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From the way some post it really makes one wonder?

God knows where everyone of them are and He knows there linage.
Elder Epley the above is unbiblical, God knows their lineage? Yet, God didn't send an angel down in the books of Ezra and

Ezr 2:59-62

"And these were they which went up from Telmelah, Telharsa, Cherub, Addan, and Immer: BUT THEY COULD NOT SHEW THEIR FATHER'S HOUSE, AND THEIR SEED, WETHER THEY WERE OF ISRAEL: The children of Delaiah, the children of Tobiah, the children of Nekoda, six hundred fifty and two. And of the children of the priests: the children of Habaiah, the children of Koz, the children of Barzillai; which took a wife of the daughters of Barzillai the Gileadite, and was called after their name: THESE SOUGHT THEIR REGISTER AMONG THOSE THAT WERE RECKONED BY GENEALOGY, BUT THEY WERE NOT FOUND: THEREFORE WERE THEY, AS POLLUTED, PUT FROM THE PRIESTHOOD."


This is how they did it in the scriptures Elder Epley they did it by Genealogy Registry.

Where did God say with a loud booming voice who was related to who? That is what you teach is it not?
Where in the Bible did God send an angel is list out the linage of the tribes or Judah? You see what you are preaching and teaching is false and is found nowhere in the Bible.

Saying God knows who is related to who, doesn't prove your erroneous teachings for a restored Israel to their land, or your doctrine of the Apostolic Jesus Name Church being subordinate to a race of people.

The beauty of the Gospel is that it is NOT a race, but it is about GRACE.

God is NO respector of persons.

Ezr 8:1-3

"These are now the chief of their fathers, and THIS IS THE GENEALOGY OF THEM THAT WENT UP WITH ME FROM BABYLON, in the reign of Artaxerxes the king. Of the sons of Phinehas; Gershom: of the sons of Ithamar; Daniel: of the sons of David; Hattush. Of the sons of Shechaniah, of the sons of Pharosh; Zechariah: and with him were reckoned by genealogy of the males an hundred and fifty."


Elder Epley the above group was only in captivity for 70 years, the ones who you beg to be called the nation of Israel have been scattered for over 2,000 years and mingled with every race in Europe, and Eastern Europe.

Elder Epley you were asked to explain how the temple would be built and you responded with "I don't know?" You then were asked about salvation after your so-called tribulation, and again you responded with "I don't know?"

For someone who doesn't know anything about what he believes, you sure holds some strong opinions.

Yes, opinions, and nothing more. You haven't proven anything with your pages upon pages of nothing more than insults. Is that how you defend the word? Without the word? Elder Epley, the modern Jews cannot prove who they are descended to, nor can they produce legitimate registry as they had in the O.T. They were assimilated for over 2,000 years and are in no way shape or form related to Adam, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, or King David.

Neh 7:5

"And my God put into mine heart to gather together the nobles, and the rulers, and the people, that they MIGHT BE RECKONED BY GENEALOGY. And I FOUND A REGISTER OF THE GENEALOGY of them which came up at the first, and found written therein, "


God gave the man a burden, but God still had the man use what was written down. Elder Epley, why didn't God just tell him who was related to who? Isn't that how you teach it? Why doesn't the Bible back up the doctrine you defend?



Neh 7:64

"These sought their register among those that were reckoned by genealogy, but it was NOT FOUND: therefore were they, as POLLUTED, put from the priesthood."


Those living today who claim to be Cohen would be considered to be polluted by Biblical standards.

Lord bless you Elder Epley, and I mean no disrespect, yet you would have to admit that you have no Bible for what you teach. If you want to disprove Xmas and Xmas trees you can go to the Bible, and show how celebrating the birth of Christ is unbiblical, and especially with trees. If you want to disprove water baptism by titles you can do it by using the Bible. Yet, you can not prove with scripture how those living today can hold to the Biblical test of ancestry. Jesus fulfilled everything to a People who could prove their lineage just like Jesus and Paul could. After Jesus' death burial and resurrection, Jesus removed the last piece of their Law keeping system, and ushered in the last remaining remnant of those who could prove who they were.

With much respect

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

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Old 05-08-2009, 09:35 AM
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Re: Breaking news

Bro. Benincasa...
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Old 05-08-2009, 10:05 PM
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Bro. Benincasa...
Even though Eld. Epley is ignoring what it said, I still agree with Eld. Benincasa's last post.
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Old 05-09-2009, 12:39 AM
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Elder Epley the above is unbiblical, God knows their lineage? Yet, God didn't send an angel down in the books of Ezra and

Ezr 2:59-62

"And these were they which went up from Telmelah, Telharsa, Cherub, Addan, and Immer: BUT THEY COULD NOT SHEW THEIR FATHER'S HOUSE, AND THEIR SEED, WETHER THEY WERE OF ISRAEL: The children of Delaiah, the children of Tobiah, the children of Nekoda, six hundred fifty and two. And of the children of the priests: the children of Habaiah, the children of Koz, the children of Barzillai; which took a wife of the daughters of Barzillai the Gileadite, and was called after their name: THESE SOUGHT THEIR REGISTER AMONG THOSE THAT WERE RECKONED BY GENEALOGY, BUT THEY WERE NOT FOUND: THEREFORE WERE THEY, AS POLLUTED, PUT FROM THE PRIESTHOOD."


This is how they did it in the scriptures Elder Epley they did it by Genealogy Registry.

Where did God say with a loud booming voice who was related to who? That is what you teach is it not?
Where in the Bible did God send an angel is list out the linage of the tribes or Judah? You see what you are preaching and teaching is false and is found nowhere in the Bible.

Saying God knows who is related to who, doesn't prove your erroneous teachings for a restored Israel to their land, or your doctrine of the Apostolic Jesus Name Church being subordinate to a race of people.

The beauty of the Gospel is that it is NOT a race, but it is about GRACE.

God is NO respector of persons.

Ezr 8:1-3

"These are now the chief of their fathers, and THIS IS THE GENEALOGY OF THEM THAT WENT UP WITH ME FROM BABYLON, in the reign of Artaxerxes the king. Of the sons of Phinehas; Gershom: of the sons of Ithamar; Daniel: of the sons of David; Hattush. Of the sons of Shechaniah, of the sons of Pharosh; Zechariah: and with him were reckoned by genealogy of the males an hundred and fifty."


Elder Epley the above group was only in captivity for 70 years, the ones who you beg to be called the nation of Israel have been scattered for over 2,000 years and mingled with every race in Europe, and Eastern Europe.

Elder Epley you were asked to explain how the temple would be built and you responded with "I don't know?" You then were asked about salvation after your so-called tribulation, and again you responded with "I don't know?"

For someone who doesn't know anything about what he believes, you sure holds some strong opinions.

Yes, opinions, and nothing more. You haven't proven anything with your pages upon pages of nothing more than insults. Is that how you defend the word? Without the word? Elder Epley, the modern Jews cannot prove who they are descended to, nor can they produce legitimate registry as they had in the O.T. They were assimilated for over 2,000 years and are in no way shape or form related to Adam, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, or King David.

Neh 7:5

"And my God put into mine heart to gather together the nobles, and the rulers, and the people, that they MIGHT BE RECKONED BY GENEALOGY. And I FOUND A REGISTER OF THE GENEALOGY of them which came up at the first, and found written therein, "


God gave the man a burden, but God still had the man use what was written down. Elder Epley, why didn't God just tell him who was related to who? Isn't that how you teach it? Why doesn't the Bible back up the doctrine you defend?



Neh 7:64

"These sought their register among those that were reckoned by genealogy, but it was NOT FOUND: therefore were they, as POLLUTED, put from the priesthood."


Those living today who claim to be Cohen would be considered to be polluted by Biblical standards.

Lord bless you Elder Epley, and I mean no disrespect, yet you would have to admit that you have no Bible for what you teach. If you want to disprove Xmas and Xmas trees you can go to the Bible, and show how celebrating the birth of Christ is unbiblical, and especially with trees. If you want to disprove water baptism by titles you can do it by using the Bible. Yet, you can not prove with scripture how those living today can hold to the Biblical test of ancestry. Jesus fulfilled everything to a People who could prove their lineage just like Jesus and Paul could. After Jesus' death burial and resurrection, Jesus removed the last piece of their Law keeping system, and ushered in the last remaining remnant of those who could prove who they were.

With much respect

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com
My friend Rev. 7 declares there will be 12,000 from each tribe named those God knows who they are and where they are. You are demanding proof of the linage I don't know that God will demand that HE is doing the research.
I have NOT said ONE thing about law keeping.
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Old 05-09-2009, 09:00 AM
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My friend Rev. 7 declares there will be 12,000 from each tribe named those God knows who they are and where they are. You are demanding proof of the linage I don't know that God will demand that HE is doing the research.
I have NOT said ONE thing about law keeping.
You ignore all Eld. Benincasa said about YOU having NO SCRIPTURE and only GUESSING at what you claim is in the Bible, and ask him this?
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Old 05-09-2009, 10:12 PM
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You ignore all Eld. Benincasa said about YOU having NO SCRIPTURE and only GUESSING at what you claim is in the Bible, and ask him this?
So Rev. 7 is NOT in your Bible?????????????? John was NOT writing SCRIPTURE in Rev. 7? That is interesting. So along with 1Jn.5:7, last few verse of Mark 16, Mt. 28:19 and now Rev. 7 is NOT scripture WOW is all I can say!!!! It looks like there won't be much left of the Bible. When Elder Buk gets through removing it.
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Old 05-09-2009, 10:56 PM
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So Rev. 7 is NOT in your Bible??????????????
I neither said nor insinuated this.

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John was NOT writing SCRIPTURE in Rev. 7?
I neither said nor insinuated this.

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That is interesting. So along with 1Jn.5:7, last few verse of Mark 16, Mt. 28:19 and now Rev. 7 is NOT scripture WOW is all I can say!!!!
I neither said nor insinuated this.

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It looks like there won't be much left of the Bible. When Elder Buk gets through removing it.
Eld. Epley, you are the master storyteller. You make up whatever you want whenever you want and do so without showing any remorse or fear of God. Elder, that is a scary trait for which to be known.
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You ignore all Eld. Benincasa said about YOU having NO SCRIPTURE and only GUESSING at what you claim is in the Bible, and ask him this?
YOU posted this and I quoted Rev. 7 in the post YOU were referring to. So admit you were wrong.
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